That's right folks, after 10 years of posting I have reached that magical number of posts.
NO, not 10,000, not 20,000...how boring. No, after 10 years I have now posted 1 billionth the US national debt. So if I post for 10 billion more years, I will have posted just as many posts as dollars we owe!
So, if every post we had to donate a dollar, your telling me the FIero community could not get us out of debt! Yet, if we could bail out the US government, that would mean we could also take over GM, like the US government, and then..... Rebirth of the Fiero! See, I'm thinking long term LOL!
Chris
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02:38 AM
Pyrthian Member
Posts: 29569 From: Detroit, MI Registered: Jul 2002
funny how when your guys ran up the debts no neo-con cared about debts or let out a peep about it
raygun alone tripled the debts with voodoo BuSh2's re-voodoo doubled the far larger debts
undoing the GOP voodoo tax cuts would cut the debts but the GOP forgets the facts and blames mr O and hopes a self inflicted depression is a cure as their wars did not work
remember the cause of the problem more voodoo is not the solution
------------------ Question wonder and be wierd are you kind?
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10:39 AM
fogglethorpe Member
Posts: 4828 From: Valley of the Sun Registered: Jul 2001
Blame is hard to place, as so many people (mostly politicians, from both major parties) are culpable. The reason is simple..they look at it as a revenue problem instead of a spending problem.
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10:52 AM
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Toddster Member
Posts: 20871 From: Roswell, Georgia Registered: May 2001
funny how when your guys ran up the debts no neo-con cared about debts or let out a peep about it
raygun alone tripled the debts with voodoo BuSh2's re-voodoo doubled the far larger debts
undoing the GOP voodoo tax cuts would cut the debts but the GOP forgets the facts and blames mr O and hopes a self inflicted depression is a cure as their wars did not work
remember the cause of the problem more voodoo is not the solution
Hmmm, debt hit $1 Trillion under Reagan....$17 Trillion under Obama...hmmm
Nope, I do not get your point...as usual.
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12:41 PM
Formula88 Member
Posts: 53788 From: Raleigh NC Registered: Jan 2001
funny how when your guys ran up the debts no neo-con cared about debts or let out a peep about it
raygun alone tripled the debts with voodoo BuSh2's re-voodoo doubled the far larger debts
undoing the GOP voodoo tax cuts would cut the debts but the GOP forgets the facts and blames mr O and hopes a self inflicted depression is a cure as their wars did not work
remember the cause of the problem more voodoo is not the solution
Reagan didn't do it alone. The Democrat controlled Congress helped quite a bit. Scary that the amount of debt that Reagan "tripled" in 8 years takes Obama only 1 or 2 to spend.
So if you're so outraged at the deficits run up by the GOP, why are you happy with the much larger deficits run up by ObamaCo? If, to use your own words, "more voodoo is not the solution" how can more spending be the solution to too much spending?
Hmmm, debt hit $1 Trillion under Reagan....$17 Trillion under Obama...hmmm
Nope, I do not get your point...as usual.
so you fail math with real numbers raygun ran the debt from 1 trillion to 3 trillion with his tax cuts [voodoo]
your 17 is projected not real current debt levels
BuSh2 with voodoo2 ran up more debts then mr O has but you right here cheered his tax cuts with lots of BS promises that FAILED
yes we know you greatly support GOP ideas even after they are proven to FAIL and are completely unable to get any point not approved of by the GOP BIG LIE MACHINE
------------------ Question wonder and be wierd are you kind?
Reagan didn't do it alone. The Democrat controlled Congress helped quite a bit. Scary that the amount of debt that Reagan "tripled" in 8 years takes Obama only 1 or 2 to spend.
So if you're so outraged at the deficits run up by the GOP, why are you happy with the much larger deficits run up by ObamaCo? If, to use your own words, "more voodoo is not the solution" how can more spending be the solution to too much spending?
so you too support the unbalanced cut only GOP so called plan just as you have a one wing party you have a one failed idea on spending
a balanced raise tax rates and cut spending plan is forbidden by you dogma but is the only real fix but forbidden by dogma
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02:50 PM
Xyster Member
Posts: 1444 From: Great Falls MT Registered: Apr 2011
The only problem with raising taxes, rayb, is at this point it will kill ANY hope of economic recovery...employers will not hire new employees, because they have to keep their costs down...and if raising taxes means they have to cut staff or salary, that is a net LOSS for the government revenue (unemployed people don't generally pay taxes)...and that isn't taking into account the fact that they will likely file for unemployment, resulting in a further net drain. If then the employer, because of the higher tax rates, decides to fold up shop or move his operation overseas, then you can defecate in one hand, and tax in the other, and see which one fills up faster. Oh, yes...if everyone in the U.S. who makes over one million dollars annually, were taxed at 100%, it would still not fix the problem. How many people making minimum wage are providing jobs for other people? Zero. If you take away incentive to work by removing any reward for working harder, then no one works, and everyone starves. Taxation for the purpose of giving money to people, who did nothing to earn it, is simply a legalized form of armed robbery. If you don't believe the armed part is true, try attempting to resist the IRS when they come to get it. I don't mind paying for the things the Constitution laid out (national defense, etc...) but it's time for the people who are pulling the wagon to get a break from the people riding in the wagon. When you have a tax structure that insures you have to work for the first half of the year just to pay taxes, then something's broke. Even GOD only asked for ten per cent. (See Leviticus, Holy Bible.)
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Aug 17th, 2011
Toddster Member
Posts: 20871 From: Roswell, Georgia Registered: May 2001
The only problem with raising taxes, rayb, is at this point it will kill ANY hope of economic recovery...
Really? Wow, I thought the Sherrif of Nottingham and his henchmen beating and raping the towns people of their hard earned coin of the realm was supposed to HELP the people. Say it isn't so!