BUT BEFORE i LEAVE AND STICK TO THE TECH END.. you people are the biggest bunch of panseys I've ever delt with.. you're like over grown baby's.. p.m.'d buddies to ask to neg rate people.. you somehow think, a person thats only here a stort time. has no rights, no opinions, no nothing.. not worthy to be part of the membership yet.. the click, the snob elite.. you want respect but give none, I was blasted from post #1.. the o/t is all yours, you all can have a circle jerk.. sad a few where nice.. one even warned me that if I don't follow the stat quo.. they'll gang up like a pack of hungry wolves.. he was so right..
sadly way to many can't think for themselves. or just don't want to rock the apple cart for fear of being pushed out.. enjoy..
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aceman Member
Posts: 4899 From: Brooklyn Center, MN Registered: Feb 2003
You've been way too fast to post negativity. Don't make the same mistake in the other departments. Try to stay on the positive side. Normally you can get your point across without going negative.
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Boondawg Member
Posts: 38235 From: Displaced Alaskan Registered: Jun 2003
E.Furgal, you are the only poster that I ever rated and I gave you a Positive for engaging me in a civil manner when we were posting about "Muslims".
Maybe you could have a cooling off period and not post here for awhile and then come back refreshed and with a more positive feeling about this O/T forum..?
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Boondawg Member
Posts: 38235 From: Displaced Alaskan Registered: Jun 2003
look at the red in your ratings bar, it ain't gonna get any better in tech with the way you talk to people. i had you as nutral but will give you a positive just because you got balls, no brains but balls.
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Patrick Member
Posts: 38103 From: Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada Registered: Apr 99
all i can say is ive been tracking E since he came here and when he hit 50 votes he gained 20 votes in 2 days if thats not group voting then i dunno what is.
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OKflyboy Member
Posts: 6607 From: Not too far from Mexico Registered: Nov 2004
all i can say is ive been tracking E since he came here and when he hit 50 votes he gained 20 votes in 2 days if thats not group voting then i dunno what is.
When you say "group voting" are you suggesting that there was collusion? Is it not possible that he gained 20 votes in 2 days based on 20 people all choosing to rate him for their own reasons?
(For the record I just checked and he still remains at a neutral from me)
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87antuzzi Member
Posts: 11151 From: Surrounded by corn. Registered: Feb 2009
Ive been sitting here for a minute with a feather duster and a bottle of KY, when the hell is this party gonna start?! At least I know boonie's down for a dawgin'.
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Boondawg Member
Posts: 38235 From: Displaced Alaskan Registered: Jun 2003
When you say "group voting" are you suggesting that there was collusion? Is it not possible that he gained 20 votes in 2 days based on 20 people all choosing to rate him for their own reasons?
(For the record I just checked and he still remains at a neutral from me)
i dunno if it was what he said but its wierd how when that bar shows up your votes shoot up that fast. it is certinly possible that he said something to tick a group off but thats a lot of votes for a 2 days span. actually at first i thoguht he was quite an ass and ALMOST thoguht he was L67 for a minute lol then i realized the system wont let you on that fast and L67 got das boot only a few weeks before E showed up
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fogglethorpe Member
Posts: 4828 From: Valley of the Sun Registered: Jul 2001
BUT BEFORE i LEAVE AND STICK TO THE TECH END.. you people are the biggest bunch of panseys I've ever delt with.. you're like over grown baby's.. p.m.'d buddies to ask to neg rate people.. you somehow think, a person thats only here a stort time. has no rights, no opinions, no nothing.. not worthy to be part of the membership yet.. the click, the snob elite.. you want respect but give none, I was blasted from post #1.. the o/t is all yours, you all can have a circle jerk.. sad a few where nice.. one even warned me that if I don't follow the stat quo.. they'll gang up like a pack of hungry wolves.. he was so right..
sadly way to many can't think for themselves. or just don't want to rock the apple cart for fear of being pushed out.. enjoy..
I'm sure the Tech section will recieve your whiny, barely intelligible rants as warmly as we have.
BUT BEFORE i LEAVE AND STICK TO THE TECH END.. you people are the biggest bunch of panseys I've ever delt with.. you're like over grown baby's.. p.m.'d buddies to ask to neg rate people.. you somehow think, a person thats only here a stort time. has no rights, no opinions, no nothing.. not worthy to be part of the membership yet.. the click, the snob elite.. you want respect but give none, I was blasted from post #1.. the o/t is all yours, you all can have a circle jerk.. sad a few where nice.. one even warned me that if I don't follow the stat quo.. they'll gang up like a pack of hungry wolves.. he was so right..
sadly way to many can't think for themselves. or just don't want to rock the apple cart for fear of being pushed out.. enjoy..
I didn't get the PM, so I must not be in the 'in' crowd. By the way, thanks for grouping us all in the same light. Goodbye!
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Cliff Pennock Administrator
Posts: 11820 From: Zandvoort, The Netherlands Registered: Jan 99
I watched him for a couple of weeks, because I got the feeling he had been here before. I guessed I was wrong. During one exchange, I felt sad for a guy who is suffering physical problems, and the resulting anxst that the medicines can, and DO cause. I gave him a plus. And I told him so. I noticed a more than imperceptible 'mellowing' towards me, and I was happy about that, for HIM. Then, a day or so ago, he really blew the lid off, and I took away the positive...and told him so, AND WHY. I left it like that, but it seems it was to no avail. Sad. I sincerely hope he can find the way to being civil, yet firm and forceful. He made some real sense, sometimes , amongst the diatribes...and his work ethic is, apparently, to be praised. E.Furgal...why didn't you try to share some more about yourself? Why no first name, just 'E'? It seemed to me you put up a barrier almost immediately, perhaps to hide behind because you knew what was coming? You know, when I was a youngster, you were taught to respect your Elders, even if the reason was not apparent. From that premise, you had time to discover whether those 'Elders' really DID deserve respect...or not. I am sure most would agree an extended hand at a first meeting is going to go down better than a clenched fist direct to the mouth.
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Posts: 24554 From: Florida USA Registered: Aug 2002
Don't let the board get to you... I know how worked up we can get, especially with politics... especially for those conservative Americans on here... it's our country going to pot. But you won't get anything accomplished by getting mad and leaving.
One thing you'll learn about T O/T is you need to get some year under your belt and you need to make friends with the right people before you go pissing off the wrong ones.. sadley the forum dident used to be like this..
One thing you'll learn about T O/T is you need to get some year under your belt and you need to make friends with the right people before you go pissing off the wrong ones.. sadley the forum dident used to be like this..
Probably because people coming in guns blazing from the off was rare as well, PK
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Cliff Pennock Administrator
Posts: 11820 From: Zandvoort, The Netherlands Registered: Jan 99
One thing you'll learn about T O/T is you need to get some year under your belt and you need to make friends with the right people before you go pissing off the wrong ones.. sadley the forum dident used to be like this..
It has always been like this. Don't kid yourself. And that's how it should be. This is a very close knit community. The "regulars" here have earned respect over the years. Not only with their help in the tech sections, but also with their help in more private matters. They deserve that respect. The only thing that has changed over the years is that newcomers used to show some respect too for those regulars while nowadays, they come-in here with their "you're no better than I am" attitude and an incredible amount of arrogance.
I'm sorry, but that does not make you earn our respect.
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Raydar Member
Posts: 41012 From: Carrollton GA. Out in the... country. Registered: Oct 1999
It has always been like this. Don't kid yourself. And that's how it should be. This is a very close knit community. The "regulars" here have earned respect over the years. Not only with their help in the tech sections, but also with their help in more private matters. They deserve that respect. The only thing that has changed over the years is that newcomers used to show some respect too for those regulars while nowadays, they come-in here with their "you're no better than I am" attitude and an incredible amount of arrogance.
I'm sorry, but that does not make you earn our respect.
What your saying is true cliff but i've seen on here as well someone belitteled for just expressing there opinion in a calm respectful manner.. its rare but still.. I mean god forbid someone new come on here and within days just post a thread saying there a libral and completley agree with say obama and his policy's.. pretty much a fart in church scenareo but with metaphorical forum lynching at the end.
just for my own protection i dont agree with obama at all...
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Posts: 3696 From: Riceville, IA Registered: Nov 2003
One thing you'll learn about T O/T is you need to get some year under your belt and you need to make friends with the right people before you go pissing off the wrong ones.. sadley the forum dident used to be like this..
Or you could just not piss people off and be respectful.
Personally E.Furgal I gave you a neg just now because of this specific thread. I know there have been a lot of these lately but I'm sorry, when Brad says he is going to leave, I care and we as a group are missing out on a great guy. When some rude guy who has only been here since March says he's leaving, he's just asking for attention...guess you got it.
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Boondawg Member
Posts: 38235 From: Displaced Alaskan Registered: Jun 2003
It has always been like this. Don't kid yourself. And that's how it should be. This is a very close knit community. The "regulars" here have earned respect over the years. Not only with their help in the tech sections, but also with their help in more private matters. They deserve that respect. The only thing that has changed over the years is that newcomers used to show some respect too for those regulars while nowadays, they come-in here with their "you're no better than I am" attitude and an incredible amount of arrogance.
I'm sorry, but that does not make you earn our respect.
so because someone helps out in the tech section they deserve to spout off what ever opinions they choose in a disrespectful manner? is my opinion no more important that the next? now i can see purposefully talking crap to people getting you a ban but thats not what we are discussing. we all know full well that if you give an opinion even if respectful there are people that will dislike you for it and show it by rating you accordingly. and to say otherwise goes against human nature.... WE ALL JUDGE some can let it go and respect someone elses views, a lot cant. and that is FACT people cant handle others opinions if they differ from their own. and in OT no one is better than anyone else and that is the way it should be. you can have your opinion but yours is no more right than mine. now in tech section if you go spouting off that your opinion is right when it is not, that is not only wrong but can cause harm to someones vehicle or ones self becaus ethey trust your insight then yes thats wrong but again tech is not what we are talking about here its OT.
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Formula88 Member
Posts: 53788 From: Raleigh NC Registered: Jan 2001
Or you could just not piss people off and be respectful.
Personally E.Furgal I gave you a neg just now because of this specific thread. I know there have been a lot of these lately but I'm sorry, when Brad says he is going to leave, I care and we as a group are missing out on a great guy. When some rude guy who has only been here since March says he's leaving, he's just asking for attention...guess you got it.
I havent really folowed E's post's i try to stay out of O/T if i do post its mostley my bit of comic relief
I was just thinking, "Nobody here better try giving me any of that respect". I don't need NO part of having to deal with that kind of pressure!
Agreed. I am not the standard for anything. You can count on me to not give you any respect. Seriously. I am here for you man.
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I think some of us would like to hold to the "party" standard in OT. If we acted like some of the people here in public we wouldn't get invite to the party. We would just be huge downers. It's not disagreement or dissension, but total disrespect. To-tal.
(Doug will like this one ...)
When people here start using the words "liberal", "lefty", "Marxist", "neo-conned", "commie" and "intellectual" (to name a few) it's the same as putting a gun in our mouths and screaming for us to shut up. It's intended to halt all discussion. I wouldn't invite these people to my party. Who wants that?
Then when someone voices their dissatisfaction with how OT has gone we put a gun in their mouth and call them pussies. I don't get it. I believe people should drive change even when they don't have the right. Has anyone suggested that we make OT worse and more uncivilized?
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