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Shelby Series One Engine, PCM, Harness by AJxtcman
Started on: 11-27-2007 09:01 AM
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Report this Post11-27-2007 09:01 AM Click Here to See the Profile for AJxtcmanSend a Private Message to AJxtcmanDirect Link to This Post
I can get my hands on a few engines out of the 100 sold. I can set up the NEW 4.0L engine with a RUNNING PCM, and harness.

At this time it is a Manual trans setup.

$2500 for a New Crate Engine, PCM, Harness. While supplies last

The PCM will be supported for custom tuning shortly.

This engine was setup for boost in some of the cars.

I have seen several engines for sale for $3500. That is just the engine.
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Report this Post11-27-2007 10:23 PM Click Here to See the Profile for AJxtcmanSend a Private Message to AJxtcmanDirect Link to This Post
I got the harness today and I am almost done with the schematic.

I paid BIG dollars for the PCM harness. This is nothing for under the hood. All I got was stuff inside the car and the PCM connectors.
I have no engine harness, but I am almost doen with the schematics
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Report this Post11-28-2007 02:32 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Tha DriverClick Here to visit Tha Driver's HomePageSend a Private Message to Tha DriverDirect Link to This Post
Isn't this the Olds Aurora engine?
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Report this Post11-28-2007 06:32 AM Click Here to See the Profile for AJxtcmanSend a Private Message to AJxtcmanDirect Link to This Post
I had an impression that the Olds was not a true Northstar. Caddy's had Northstars and the old had Aurora engines. Not true. Both the 4.0L and the 4.6L are Northstars built By GM For Blank. I hope to have my running by the weekend on this PCM.
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Report this Post11-28-2007 07:44 AM Click Here to See the Profile for TommyT913Send a Private Message to TommyT913Direct Link to This Post
I am interested in this set up. 320hp ? Is this a plug and play type thing? Outside of mounts what else will I need. Any info you can give would be appreciated.

Tommy

On edit, I finally comprehend that there is no engine harness. I'm not so sure I am competent enough to build a harness and source/fab the parts needed to mount all of the accessories. Would a factory harness for an Aurora bee a good starting point? Are the injectors, rails, coil packs included..... Basically, I need a total assessment of what will be needed to get this thing going.

Sorry for the ramble, but I'm excited about this opportunity. I just don't want to end up with something I can't see through to completion.

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Originally posted by AJxtcman:

I had an impression that the Olds was not a true Northstar. Caddy's had Northstars and the old had Aurora engines. Not true. Both the 4.0L and the 4.6L are Northstars built By GM For Blank. I hope to have my running by the weekend on this PCM.


The Series One engine is a "worked" version of the Olds engine. Shelby originally wanted the 4.6 liter motor but GM said no and he had to settle for the 4.0. I don't remember all of the details but a great write up was done way back when in Motor Trend. The 4.0 engine has better cams, larger valves, and other upgrades that give it the punch it has.

PS, Tommy, there is no such thing as a "plug and play" northstar swap. The engine bay need cutting and welding to widen the passengerr side tower, move the passenger side hood hinge mount and redesign the hinge, remove the dog bone mount, and do some cradle mods. Check out the tech section for some good threads on the details.

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PS, Tommy, there is no such thing as a "plug and play" northstar swap. The engine bay need cutting and welding to widen the passengerr side tower, move the passenger side hood hinge mount and redesign the hinge, remove the dog bone mount, and do some cradle mods. Check out the tech section for some good threads on the details.




As far as plug and play, I was focusing on the wiring harness. On my edit, I realized that the harness would have to be built. Does the passenger side tower have to be cut on an 87'???? I was under the impression that only the 88's needed this modification to get the N* in.

I'm willing to do everything but the strut tower mod to install this engine.


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Originally posted by Toddster:


The Series One engine is a "worked" version of the Olds engine. Shelby originally wanted the 4.6 liter motor but GM said no and he had to settle for the 4.0. I don't remember all of the details but a great write up was done way back when in Motor Trend. The 4.0 engine has better cams, larger valves, and other upgrades that give it the punch it has.

PS, Tommy, there is no such thing as a "plug and play" northstar swap. The engine bay need cutting and welding to widen the passengerr side tower, move the passenger side hood hinge mount and redesign the hinge, remove the dog bone mount, and do some cradle mods. Check out the tech section for some good threads on the details.



If you look at STS's Fiero you will see that he did not cut his all up.

This engine will come with a harness built for a Fiero.
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Report this Post11-29-2007 01:19 PM Click Here to See the Profile for AJxtcmanSend a Private Message to AJxtcmanDirect Link to This Post
I just picked up 3 PCM's today. I will play with on on my car and send one to Bill @ hptuners. Progress
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Originally posted by AJxtcman:


If you look at STS's Fiero you will see that he did not cut his all up.

This engine will come with a harness built for a Fiero.


Yes he did. Look for the hood hinge or the dog bone mount in the pictures. You won't see them. Cutting is a necessity. As for the towers, I am not sure whether or not the 88 needs it but you will have to remove the dog bone mount and hood hinge regardless.
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Report this Post11-30-2007 07:21 AM Click Here to See the Profile for AJxtcmanSend a Private Message to AJxtcmanDirect Link to This Post
I drilled out a few spot welds and removed the Dog Bone brace! I used a spot weld drill so I did no have to plug weld the holes.
I did cut my hinge. Big mistake. I had to weld it back together. Yes my hinge is not notched out.
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Can you give me a call to discuss this? 917-731-7985

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Report this Post12-22-2007 10:28 AM Click Here to See the Profile for AJxtcmanSend a Private Message to AJxtcmanDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by TommyT913:

Can you give me a call to discuss this? 917-731-7985

Tommy


When I talked to you a few weeks back I was getting or had a bad cold. It had me out of it for about 2 weeks. That was part one of the delay getting back to you.
The car is running.
My girl friend had back surgery. We have 3 kids so I have been running them around and going to see her in the hospital. That was part two
Part Three is taking care of her. I just brought her home on Friday.

Give me a few weeks and I should have a bunch of stuff posted and going on this.
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Originally posted by AJxtcman:

I drilled out a few spot welds and removed the Dog Bone brace! I used a spot weld drill so I did no have to plug weld the holes.
I did cut my hinge. Big mistake. I had to weld it back together. Yes my hinge is not notched out.


I've seen some people drill out the spot welds on the hinge mount and move it outboard about 2-3 inches and then custom weld-up a spacer for the stock decklid hinge. I'll find a pic somewhere of one. Looks good and give you all the room you need but you do need to relocate the battery to the front.
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I've seen some people drill out the spot welds on the hinge mount and move it outboard about 2-3 inches and then custom weld-up a spacer for the stock decklid hinge. I'll find a pic somewhere of one. Looks good and give you all the room you need but you do need to relocate the battery to the front.


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Report this Post12-28-2007 05:13 PM Click Here to See the Profile for fiero_silvaSend a Private Message to fiero_silvaDirect Link to This Post
What PCM are you using? How tuneable is that PCM to the end line user? How about tuning for boost with that ECM down the road?
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Originally posted by fiero_silva:

What PCM are you using? How tuneable is that PCM to the end line user? How about tuning for boost with that ECM down the road?


LS1 PCM - I am working with a company for end user tuning with the help of Loyde also - The Factory ran Boost? or not and it was dealer installed?

Originally posted by craigslist:

SHELBY GM AURORA engine motor w/ful wire harnes & comp - $5500


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Date: 2007-12-19, 6:49PM PST


I have a authentic Shelby Aurora engine for sale I have 3 and one of them is setup for a turbo,super charger,any forced induction.I have the full wireing harness and computer everything needed to drop it in and fire it up!!!!!!I m a former employe for Shelby as top level a builder I purchased a few of these and other authenic parts for a wide range of vehicles mostly 2005 and up mustangs. first $5500 takes it call for more details!307-9756

Location: North Las Vegas

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Originally posted by AJxtcman:


LS1 PCM - I am working with a company for end user tuning with the help of Loyde also - The Factory ran Boost? or not and it was dealer installed?

Originally posted by craigslist:

SHELBY GM AURORA engine motor w/ful wire harnes & comp - $5500



Are the internals on the boosted motors different from the internals in the motors you are selling?


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Originally posted by AJxtcman:


LS1 PCM - I am working with a company for end user tuning with the help of Loyde also - The Factory ran Boost? or not and it was dealer installed?

Originally posted by craigslist:

SHELBY GM AURORA engine motor w/ful wire harnes & comp - $5500

I have a authentic Shelby Aurora engine for sale I have 3 and one of them is setup for a turbo,super charger,any forced induction.



That would be 1 out of 3 engine correct? For $5500 correct?

From my understanding all of the engines are the same

The only changes are the PCM programs. This is the same PCM as a Corvette
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Report this Post12-29-2007 09:47 AM Click Here to See the Profile for AJxtcmanSend a Private Message to AJxtcmanDirect Link to This Post
I ordered 5 Snake bit books last night to go along with the setup.

I will call today and ask how many engine are left for me.

100 engine were sold in groups of 10. The one of the guy's I talked to said he would hold some, but it has been awhile. He had 10 of them.
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That SOB moves...nice.
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A what going on BUMP?
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Report this Post05-16-2008 02:17 AM Click Here to See the Profile for TRiADSend a Private Message to TRiADDirect Link to This Post
What other mods/parts are needed to make this fully functional in a Fiero?

Thanks!

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Report this Post05-16-2008 04:27 PM Click Here to See the Profile for AJxtcmanSend a Private Message to AJxtcmanDirect Link to This Post
I am in Charlotte and will return home on Saturday. I can get some info together then.
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Bump for the Shelby Aurora

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