the auction is over but it should be reposted verys oon. at least that's what the seller told me. ------------------ 1990 ASC Mclaren Grand Prix TSTE (Turbo 3.1) 1992 Firebird T-Tops V-8 24k original Florida miles(collectors car) 1999 Pontiac GTP Grand Prix Silvermist Coupe - runs easy mid 13's all day
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Posts: 12496 From: Nashville, TN Registered: Aug 2000
I looked at that. Looks pretty expensive to me for what it is. For that amount of money I would expect it to be fully tested and proven in a car. And completely finished with the conversion. With the Cav cluster just stuck in the Fiero surround like that... It is still a long way from finished but it seems to me that the seller is asking a completed price for it.
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Posts: 4167 From: Pewaukee, Wisconsin, USA Registered: Apr 2008
I looked at that. Looks pretty expensive to me for what it is. For that amount of money I would expect it to be fully tested and proven in a car. And completely finished with the conversion. With the Cav cluster just stuck in the Fiero surround like that... It is still a long way from finished but it seems to me that the seller is asking a completed price for it.
that's exactly what I thought, but I was just pointing out the idea of digital clusters in fieros, not that I'd pay that much...lol
------------------ 1990 ASC Mclaren Grand Prix TSTE (Turbo 3.1) 1992 Firebird T-Tops V-8 24k original Florida miles(collectors car) 1999 Pontiac GTP Grand Prix Silvermist Coupe - runs easy mid 13's all day
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Posts: 12496 From: Nashville, TN Registered: Aug 2000
I was hoping it would sell for that much! Just not to me! haha
I've got a couple of those laying around that I bought for $20 each out of junkyards, and plenty of $10 Fiero surrounds. I was going to go into business!
I am planning to put one of the ones I have in the Fiero I just bought for my wife.
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lacelles Member
Posts: 298 From: Rockland Ontario (Canada) Registered: Nov 2004
Unfortunately I can't find the link on your page. Maybe I am getting old and blind.
Duh! On my browser the scroll bar was covering up the menu bar.
After looking at the instructions, I guess my first question is... Can I adjust this to work with my wife's 4 cylinder? Probably a discussion for the tech section.
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Visit my web site, I have done a complete installation with all of the instruction required
I"M the seller and I'd sure like to know WHEN and WHERE I ever said THAT !?
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For that amount of money I would expect it to be fully tested and proven in a car.
You're delusional if you think ANYONE would do all the wiring required to put it in a car just to take it back out again and sell it. I've NEVER seen a cavalier digital dash for sale like that.
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Looks pretty expensive to me for what it is. And completely finished with the conversion.
Like what - triming the outer edge and filling in the small gaps ? or maybe you wnat me to cut up my wiring harness or buy another one becuase you're too lazy to match the color codes to your fiero harness EVEN though I'm including the diagrams.
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With the Cav cluster just stuck in the Fiero surround like that... It is still a long way from finished but it seems to me that the seller is asking a completed price for it.
The fiero surround has been trimmed and the cav dash mounted. THIS is MOST of the work in addition to wiring and labelling i did. There is NO more wiring that CAN be done except to wire the other connector to the fiero harness.
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I've got a couple of those laying around that I bought for $20 each out of junkyards, and plenty of $10 Fiero surrounds.
I DOUBT THIS or maybe they're trash or just don't work. The yards here charge $17.50 for a turn signal switch - I know of NO WHERE you could get a functioning instrument panel in VERY NICE condition for $20 friggin dollars. I paid over $100 to a member here for the cav dash alone a few years ago and never used it. I've NEVER seen a nice woking cav instrument dash that cheap including here and eBay, IF on the rare occassion they even appear for sale any more !
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I am planning to put one of the ones I have in the Fiero I just bought for my wife.
Werent you also planning to offer parts from germany ? yeah, right ....
Don't you guys have anything better to do than slam someone else .... ESPECIALLY since neither of you cheap %!$#@@&* bid on it anyway or probably aren't even DOING a digital dash ! You both apparently over looked the other switches and plates that are also in NICE shape or maybe you think i got those for free. Fine - go buy it somwhere else if you can find one and do all the work yourself - better yet, let's see a build thread with pics ....
This is why I don't even post parts for sale here any more - just the eBay links.
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Posts: 12496 From: Nashville, TN Registered: Aug 2000
I see some folks never grow up.. Wow. I had no idea this was you. Explains a lot...
Let's start with the stupidest part of what you said.... Yeah, I was planning to offer parts from Germany. I was investing thousands of dollars of my own money to try to get some good products over here for the Fiero community. And everyone here.. apparently other than you... knows that the guy on the other end disappeared. How exactly are you trying to make that look bad on me?
As for the rest... Well, the truth is in the pudding. Sorry you paid so much for it down there. I've got two of them here on my shelf in very nice condition that I got for $20 each, including the temp sensor. Got another one from a Beretta that I only gave $15 for. I hate to be the one to give you the bad news - But just because you don't know how something happens, don't mean that it doesn't happen.
You could be right that no one would go though all the work just to take it right back out of the car and sell it. I never said anything about that. What I said is that someone would be crazy to pay that much for something like this just because it lights up on the workbench.
And yes, I meant trimming the edge and actually making it look like something other than two different car parts stuck together. The round surround of the Cav dash needs to be cut off to make it work right in a Fiero. I see that you have it mounted using that part of the Cav cluster. It won't work like that... Not and look like anything good anyway.
You are right that I didn't bid on it. Does that make me cheap? No, it makes me not to want to pay too much for a part. But I am honestly glad that I didn't know you were the seller. That way no one can accuse me of saying something about it just because I think you are an idiot. And yes, I can say that because you called those of us who have the nerve to disagree with you "cheap %!$#@@&*". Personally, I wasn't slamming anyone. I made a comment that a piece was priced too high for what it is. Take it however you want.
My comments certainly are not BS... and Fairy... well, I guess I'll leave that part to you.
Okay.. I'll edit to match yours...
I don't have to go buy it somewhere else - I already have two on my shelf that I gave $20 each for.
And I don't have to do a build thread with pics. - Stephane has already done that. Very well too. Lots of good pictures to make it simple for someone... http://www.azoteliquide.com/fiero/ in case you missed it.
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PaulJK Member
Posts: 6638 From: Los Angeles Registered: Oct 2001
Sure - then why don't you sell them if they're so nice and you got them so cheap instead of letting them collect dust ? Put one up on eBay - let's see what it's REALLY worth. Buy the rest of the switches and stuff and put it together like I did and let's see what YOU ask for it ! Post a build thread with pics to show there's even a SPECK of truth in any of your post.
And my auction INCLUDED a NEW OEM outside temp sensor still in the GM box !
I tried to sell this thing for LESS than I had into it in parts and you guys take 1/2 baked pot shots ....
I'm already done with this .......
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Posts: 12496 From: Nashville, TN Registered: Aug 2000
I didn't take pot shots at you, Paul. If I had, you would know it.
I made a statement based on my opinion, and also on what I pay for items of the same make. Get pissed it you want. You know I don't care.
You also know that I have an entire garage of Fiero parts collecting dust. So what exactly do I need to prove to you? I would need to care what you think to worry about that. Plenty enough people on here know me and my reputation to know that I have the parts. That is enough for me.
On the other hand: [sarcasm]I have a Yugo that I paid a million dollars for. I'll sell it to you for a million. It must be worth that because that is what I paid for it! [/sarcasm]
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Posts: 352 From: southland pines,fl Registered: Mar 2008
I bought mine for $30 at a Upick yard locally and hooked it up with a cadillac temperature sender and it worked fine, the only problem with those since they are so old is the readout stops working especially if they are stored for a long time then is put back in use.
The dielectric in the power supply capacitors dries up like hard wax and will not hold a charge so it is best to change them out if you want any long term usage from them.
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PaulJK Member
Posts: 6638 From: Los Angeles Registered: Oct 2001
My buddy Scott? The one who ripped me off for over $5000?
Do you buy your facts at Wal-Mart? So far you are 0 for 10.
BTW - As far as I know Scott was never working on a 355 interior. He was building 355 bodies, of which I bought one that he never produced. I can see how that puts me in cahoots with him. [sarcasm again]
And I am really glad you are done cause you suck at this.
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Posts: 12496 From: Nashville, TN Registered: Aug 2000
I bought mine for $30 at a Upick yard locally and hooked it up with a cadillac temperature sender and it worked fine, the only problem with those since they are so old is the readout stops working especially if they are stored for a long time then is put back in use.
The dielectric in the power supply capacitors dries up like hard wax and will not hold a charge so it is best to change them out if you want any long term usage from them.
Thanks for the tip on the dialectric. That can save those of us who use these a lot of headaches!
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PaulJK Member
Posts: 6638 From: Los Angeles Registered: Oct 2001
I'm not a lost cause, Paul. I'm just not going to sit here and let you post fantasy crap about me without setting the record straight. The things you try to dig me on are just BS. I don't see what you are trying to gain.
I didn't start this digging on you. I had no idea you were the seller. The guy posted it. I made a comment. So far, everyone but you seems to have the same opinion I do about it. Personally, I wouldn't care if you could sell them for $1000 a piece. It still doesn't change the fact that I can buy them for $20 each around here. You called it BS and the other guy posted that he bought his for $30. Point is, I really don't care about any of that.. But you WILL NOT make statements about me that are meant to berate my character that are not true. If that makes me a lost cause, so be it. Nothing I have said in this thread has been incorrect. You can't say that.
Edit for your edit: Nice! A copy and paste of a 4 year old thread... and also in response to a guy who also pulled shady dealings on the forum. DJ disappeared after ripping a few people off. And it was also shown that DJ sold the parts on eBay that he supposedly never got from Scott AND he pulled that same scam on other respected members of this forum. At the time of that post, Scott was still around and trying to make good on what he owed people. That has not been the case in the last couple of years. Why didn't you go back farther? Couldn't find anything I said when I was in kindergarten? Maybe you should look up threads and see what I have said about DKOV in the last two and a half years.
So you won't hurt yourself looking... here is the first paragraph of what I said about DKOV two and a half years ago.... DKOV owes me $5000 and has for over 4 years. He has constantly lied to me about everything that was ever supposed to happen in our transaction. he is a worthless pile of dog crap and if I can't get him legally I will end up driving the 13 hours and taking it out of his @$$. I am currently compiling information from others who he has ripped off and going after him for fraud. He thinks he can just hide and change his phone numbers and it will go away but it will not. I was very patient with him and even defended him for a while... But I finally learned that he is a liar and a thief. To see the rest of it, go to https://www.fiero.nl/forum/A...070315-1-062685.html
But you are right about one thing.. This does need to end. So I will end it. Say whatever you want after this and I won't bother to respond. I think people see the trend anyway. Good luck with your auctions.
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