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Low bucket headlights compleat ! by RULOOKIN
Started on: 10-10-2010 11:37 AM
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Looking for a compleat set ready to install low bucket headlights with lights,mounts,buckets ect.
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Report this Post10-22-2010 03:49 AM Click Here to See the Profile for hairballrmClick Here to visit hairballrm's HomePageSend a Private Message to hairballrmDirect Link to This Post
I have designed and fabricated an ABS replacement bucket that mount Hella Projector Modules.

Go to: http://Projectorretrofit.com

ABS replacement for stock sealed beam headlamp bucket.
CAD designed and Laser cut ABS. Assembled by hand.
Very durable construction

Mounts Hella 90mm modules. (sold separately)
DOT approved quartz halogen projector low beam and parabolic high beam.

New version will be available soon for Hella 60mm Projector Low Beam.
Will lower profile an additional 15mm

I can easily install all components and ship to you



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Hairballrm only as a few posts, but I'll vouch for him after spending way too long on the phone talking about Fieros several times. This guy knows his **** when it comes to this kind of thing, and I have no doubt the buckets will be superb, which is why I'll be installing his 60/90 buckets soon. I'm convinced they'll work and look better than 90/90 setups, and those 60mm Hellas are just awesome in form and function.

Rick, maybe a complete and ready to install package is in order? Now you just need a sweet hookup for the projectors...Hmm...

BTW, responded to your e-mail.
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Report this Post10-22-2010 06:25 AM Click Here to See the Profile for IIKoolSend a Private Message to IIKoolDirect Link to This Post
What kind of prices are we talking about? And what the difference between the 60/90 setup and the 90/90 setup? Please explain for a layman.
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Bump for more info

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Why are the lights crooked?

Thanks
Ryan

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I'm not the biggest fan of the light position either but I do like the ABS material choice. Is there any chance of changing the laser programing to reposition the light holes?

I had to go back and look but WMac was the originator of this headlight setup and had his lights crooked the opposite way (outside higher).




I'm not sure if I like that better or the Fiero1Fan horizontal version.



Any chance you could take a measurement like shown below such that we can compare the opening height to the Fiero1Fan product?

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Report this Post10-25-2010 09:49 PM Click Here to See the Profile for pontiackid86Send a Private Message to pontiackid86Direct Link to This Post
While i never installed them i had a set of fiero1fan headlight buckets (1st style) and his buckets are great. I went with flushmounts but F!F buckets look awsome. I'v spoken to F!F on the phone a few times with DIY-stu. Both a pair of standup guys.
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I'm curious too, there's no price....
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I like the looks of these.... I was working on a design of my own for my personal car but are there any other pics of these on other peoples cars on here? peace

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I have a set of the Fiero1Fan buckets with Hella lights and harness still in the box. They are not in the buckets though...

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Originally posted by MulletproofMonk:

I have a set of the Fiero1Fan buckets with Hella lights and harness still in the box. They are not in the buckets though...



i'm interested too after Duane (RULOOKIN) responds of course ..he has 1st dibs if he's interested..oh & how much?
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"Sold in pairs, cost for all buckets is $200 + S&H"

Details here : http://projectorretrofit.com/fierobuckets.html

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Forgive me gentlemen, I am new to forums and was not monitoring this one

The buckets you see on my car are dual 90mm.
The 90mm low projector is very long and in the US must be outboard.
This length and shape of the opening created a major clearance issue for the design.
It took a while, but the back of the low beam will not ever drag on the door.
The geometry of the door mandates that the bucket will be taller inboard than outboard.
The inherent road illumination disadvantage of sports cars is the shallower angle at which light strikes the highway.
My tall E-250 with sealed beams is much better (than the stock Fiero lights).
Me, being a practical fellow, saw no reason to waste the advantageous elevation and pushed the high beam as high as I could go.
In hindsight, the 20mm raised elevation is a mute point.
The aim of the high beam is flatter in it's trajectory relative to the low.
You will never see the difference.

I have a designs for an even across the bottom 6060 and 6090 buckets waiting for my laser guy to come back from vacation.
They are 15mm shorter overall than than the 9090.
Of course, if anyone wants a 9090 bucket with both modules at the same height.
I can do that too.. You'll owe me a beer.

I have run dual 90s for the last year.
Seeing is believing.
Bad weather, fog, snow, Bambi being chased by rutting buck.
These lights are great.

Last week I recieved 60mm projector units.
I had assumed wrongly that 60mm vs. 90mm meant smaller.
Boy was I wrong.
Hella developed them for Ducati.
High and Low are both projectors
The lens is an actual 60mm accross


The lens in the 90mm is only 40 maybe 45mm across



The overall length of the 60mmlow beam is 30mm shorter than the 90.


This might be dimensionally HID friendly.
With a modified cut-off shield of course.

Right now I can produce the three different versions
6060 60low60high
6090 60low90high
9090 90low90high

All are priced the same:
$200 + $20 (s,h,ins) shipped anywhere in the US (international? we'll work it out)
+$6.60 (3.5%paypal) = $227.70 on your doorstep within 3 weeks of payment.
If you get the modules through me, I will install them in the buckets gratis.

Lesee, did I miss anything?


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quote
Originally posted by hairballrm:

I have run dual 90s for the last year.
Seeing is believing.
Bad weather, fog, snow, Bambi being chased by rutting buck.
These lights are great.



Dude- Bambi was buck!!!
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Report this Post10-27-2010 11:28 AM Click Here to See the Profile for hairballrmClick Here to visit hairballrm's HomePageSend a Private Message to hairballrmDirect Link to This Post
Yeah, but the Buck dreamed of being the Mayor of Portland

edit- for those of you who don't live in the Pacific Northwest,
Their Mayor got busted knobbing a 18 year old boy intern.

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Originally posted by hairballrm:

Lesee, did I miss anything?



Yes, actually you did. Could you take a measurement of what the height of the opening is so we can compare it to the other buckets on the market?

It sounds like you are doing a good amount of engineering to the product which I think it great. Looking forward to seeing the 6090 and 6060 buckets.
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9090s are definitely taller.
the 6060 and 6090 we'll see.
The next big thing I want to compare is beam pattern

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Will 6060 be lower than 9090 when open?

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Yes by 15mm

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Do you need a wire harness or is this plug and play? Also, is it gen 1 or get 2 compatible?
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nosrac, the buckets themselves aren't (read as: shouldn't be) year-specific. Gen1 or 2 shouldn't matter.

You will need a harness for this mod, however... I have a set of Hella 90mm lights in my bedroom computer cabinet right how waiting on some funds for buckets - their connector is vastly different from the stock light harness. If you're good with wires, there's a diagram out there you can use to make your own.

Good luck
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The stock sealed beam uses an H4 connector
Hella 90mm use a H9
Hella 60mm use a 9005

Male H4 connectors are available.
It is not difficult to build a pair of "plug and play" High/Low splitter adapters.
That being said, these lights work really nice and it is a waste not to configure them to not be "all on at bright".
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I'm using the 60's in my flush-mount setup. I still haven't figured out how they get mounted. Do you/can you show a picture of the lights mounted to your frames?

appreciate it...

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Keep in mind the Hella 60mm Projector Modules high and low beams have different dimensions.

low beam


high beam


The adjuster hole lay out is completely different.
The factory packaging comes with a dimension sheet.

I originally mocked up the modules in the initial design phase because I wanted to be confident it would work before I bought them.
I got the point where I had to have them in my hands to continue.

The 60mm were designed for Italian sport bikes.
I suspect that they use thumbscrews that are different than the provided 45mm adjuster screws
this is the low beam adjuster set

They give you 20mm and 30mm springs
I have not received the high beams yet, soooooo
I am not going to assume the adjusters are the same

Post edit-- The adjuster set for the 60mm high and low beam projector modules are identical.

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I did start a sales thread
https://www.fiero.nl/forum/F...HTML/054226.html#p11

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Originally posted by hairballrm:

That being said, these lights work really nice and it is a waste not to configure them to not be "all on at bright".


sorry, i don't understand what u mean by "all on at bright". ..probably just me, i haven't heard that phrase before!

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No problem,
I have always invented terms when I did not know the proper one.

"All on at bright" basically means you low beams will stay on even when you have your brights on.

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Originally posted by hairballrm:

No problem,
I have always invented terms when I did not know the proper one.

"All on at bright" basically means you low beams will stay on even when you have your brights on.


lol, ok i get it now..all 4 lights on when high beams selected..gotcha now! thanks!

email replied to good sir!

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Do the lights come with that "High School Musical" ruler also? J/K

Sorry couldn't help myself.

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Sorry, that Item now has historical significance and has become collectible.
I do have a large selection of Barbie pencils.

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Ahhh at last, I am very pleased with the 6060 buckets.
Here are the elevations you guys were wondering about


More pictures soon

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Looks pretty good..How long before they're mounted in the car?

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These are mounted in my car.
Relay harness went in last night.
I will post better photos soon

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I really want to go to the 60 mm projectors on the high and low. I am using the 90 mm hellas right now and im not happy with them. I want the sharp cutoff at the top of the light, if you could get some pics of the lights on a wall from the side and looking straight on that would be great. Thanks Daniel
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Funny you should ask.
Last night I made an "aiming target".
Tonight, bar any domestic limitation,
I will photograph a series of beam comparisons.
Stay tuned

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lookin good, lol, no pun intended..
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Yeah, the 90mm Hellas are “unfocused” to soften the cutoff - or, that's what I've gathered since mine are still in dry storage
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First let me say how big an improvement Quad 90mm Hella modules are over stock dual element sealed beam headlamps.
Night turned to day.

Here are initial comparison photos of 90mm vs 60mm low beam projectors.

Bear with me, no time to crop these.
Also note I used a PHD camera and was unable to control exposure.

Here is a 90mm low beam projector


60mm low beam projector


90mm driver side 60mm passenger side


60mm both sides


quad 60mm


90mm high beam 60mm high beam



a couple things to note:

About cut-off in these low beam projector fixtures:
I think a blurred vs sharp line may be a matter of personal taste. Dunno
The 60mm was designed for sportbikes.
I believe I have seen 90mm as stock equipment in some older Audis.

The lens in a 60mm module is an actual 60mm,
whereas the 90mm projector module lens is only 45mm

My high beam comparison images are inconclusive.
Identical exposure values are required.
I'll have to shoot on an actual roadway for better comparison.
I will say this;
the light from the 60mm high beam projector was much more specular and easier to aim than the 90mm high beam free form reflector.


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