im testing the waters on selling these kits. this is everything you need. turned down front hubs, swap brackets, cos rings, brand new calipers, brand new rotors cross drilled and 5x100, all mounting bolts. everything you need. with how much i got in the kits im looking at around $1500. does that sound fair and reasonable? everything is cnc cut and very professional.
I dunno.. I don't think most are willing to pay that much. The typical frugal Fiero owner (aka me lol) will shop around for used calipers/ rotors, the only parts I'd justify buying new would be SS brake hoses/ wheel bearings/ adapter brackets/ centric rings. (Ok maybe I like waiting for crazy deals more than most lol). This swap can be done for about $5-700 if you shop around, so I don't see the average Fiero owner springing for an all new setup.
$1500 is cheap for an entire new brake setup.. IMO
I never doubted that fact, just putting it into perspective with the prospective consumers. I don't want this to be another time where people express interest in something which sounds good in theory, and then when the product comes out- it turns out that people just don't have the $$$ to step up to the plate and buy. Not many people here are willing/able to drop $1500 like that. Just making sure the OP knows what type of buyers he is dealing with.
I dunno.. I don't think most are willing to pay that much. The typical frugal Fiero owner (aka me lol) will shop around for used calipers/ rotors, the only parts I'd justify buying new would be SS brake hoses/ wheel bearings/ adapter brackets/ centric rings. (Ok maybe I like waiting for crazy deals more than most lol). This swap can be done for about $5-700 if you shop around, so I don't see the average Fiero owner springing for an all new setup.
I'm inclined to agree... It'd be nice to be able to just buy a kit. There are ALOT of people on here who throw that much at their Fiero's on a regular basis, so I'm sure you'd sell some. But I think alot of us are cheap too :P Or, at the least, aren't afraid to do the extra work, to save the extra money.
It would be nice to get it all professionally made in one kit. But there are not a large number of Fiero owners sitting on that much coin these days. I couldn't get 200 bucks for a complete 86 parts car a while back.
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merciero Member
Posts: 220 From: knoxville tn Registered: Mar 2009
Ok so what if I offer the whole kit. And offer the do it yourself kit with the brackets rings hardware and so on. U buy your own Vette parts. It would most likely come out to be the same but let's u pay less upfront. Ill get a few pics to show the quality of my kits.
Ok so what if I offer the whole kit. And offer the do it yourself kit with the brackets rings hardware and so on. U buy your own Vette parts. It would most likely come out to be the same but let's u pay less upfront. Ill get a few pics to show the quality of my kits.
Now we're talking, I'm sure you'd sell a good amount of those partial kits. I'd be in line to buy something like that if I didn't just get a complete lightly used bolt on grand am brake swap for dirt cheap.
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Fierofreak00 Member
Posts: 4221 From: Martville, NY USA Registered: Jun 2001
I agree, I make the brackets for the 88 and I have sold a lot of the brackets, but I also offer a kit for only 450$ and have never sold a kit yet.Thanks
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I dunno.. I don't think most are willing to pay that much. The typical frugal Fiero owner (aka me lol) will shop around for used calipers/ rotors, the only parts I'd justify buying new would be SS brake hoses/ wheel bearings/ adapter brackets/ centric rings. (Ok maybe I like waiting for crazy deals more than most lol). This swap can be done for about $5-700 if you shop around, so I don't see the average Fiero owner springing for an all new setup.
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BOBBY D Member
Posts: 472 From: mentor, ohio, USA Registered: Feb 2011
most people here pay $1500 or less for their cars. I find it hard to believe there will be many buyers for the kit at that price. Sorry just the facts of the fiero world.
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Aug 29th, 2011
War Hammer Member
Posts: 377 From: Myrtle Beach, SC USA Registered: Jan 2008
Just wanted to say that isn't true. I have around $16k so far in my car. Others I know have decent money in their's as well. I did not get my Fiero because it was cheap - I bought it because of value. Never could you have a car with the performance potential for so little. I will have around 320 HP at the wheels, with konis, 13" Brakes, wide body, custom interior, etc. My $350z was over 42k and I still had to modify it to get it there (same horsepower, brakes, etc). It weighed 500 lbs more too.
I wanted a Fiero when they were new, but my mother forbid it and I got a Trans Am instead. I have owned a Corvette, Porsches, Trans Am, and even a 350z Track Edition in my life, but nothing is as dear to me as Pontiac's Fiero. That is why we own them.
Money is not a problem for those that truly love these little cars. We scrape, save, and barter to aquire what we need. It may take some time but it is worth it.
BTW, I have been looking for another source for a 13" Viper kit other than West Coast's for a while.
Ok so what if I offer the whole kit. And offer the do it yourself kit with the brackets rings hardware and so on. U buy your own Vette parts. It would most likely come out to be the same but let's u pay less upfront. Ill get a few pics to show the quality of my kits.
can't wait to see them!
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ace5514 Member
Posts: 692 From: west long branch, nj, usa Registered: Nov 2008
make the brackets for 88 calipers to be used with 12" vette rotors on 87 and older cars and if the pric is fair i'm in for a set (brackets only) i have everything else. just a thought...fiero addiction made them but i wasn't ready and did not have the money at the time. al
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dratts Member
Posts: 8373 From: Coeur d' alene Idaho USA Registered: Apr 2001
Right! Fieroaddictions Turbo N* with a brand new 4t65e hd, $800 pcs tranny controller, corvette brakes, roll cage and a lot more sold on eBay for $5000 after it was offered here with no takers. He had over $10,000 in it just for parts alone. Partly the economy. Partly us cheap fiero owners.
Just wanted to say that isn't true. I have around $16k so far in my car. Others I know have decent money in their's as well. I did not get my Fiero because it was cheap - I bought it because of value. Never could you have a car with the performance potential for so little. I will have around 320 HP at the wheels, with konis, 13" Brakes, wide body, custom interior, etc. My $350z was over 42k and I still had to modify it to get it there (same horsepower, brakes, etc). It weighed 500 lbs more too.
I wanted a Fiero when they were new, but my mother forbid it and I got a Trans Am instead. I have owned a Corvette, Porsches, Trans Am, and even a 350z Track Edition in my life, but nothing is as dear to me as Pontiac's Fiero. That is why we own them.
Money is not a problem for those that truly love these little cars. We scrape, save, and barter to aquire what we need. It may take some time but it is worth it.
BTW, I have been looking for another source for a 13" Viper kit other than West Coast's for a while.
Paul
No disrespect meant, but you make up about 5% of Fiero owners and your point is moot. Even people who have disposable income don't want to load it into their Fieros if they can avoid it.. Take a look at AkursedX's car, price drop after price drop its been on sale for months- its one of the quickest/nicest Fieros around apart from the guys running monster turbo 3800s- and what looks like well over 10k in parts alone he hasn't gotten a buyer yet- car is now at $7500. How about fieromadman with his turbo 3400, that thing is a work of art and he probably lost at least 5k selling that. The turbo N* that sold a few months ago was another example. Its just not happening in this economy.
I apologize if I derailed the thread to the OP.
kazoo- This mod will not work with 15" wheels, in fact it might not even work with some 16"s. Your stock spare won't work either.
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Ok so what if I offer the whole kit. And offer the do it yourself kit with the brackets rings hardware and so on. U buy your own Vette parts. It would most likely come out to be the same but let's u pay less upfront. Ill get a few pics to show the quality of my kits.
That sounds like a much better proposition to me. I suspect you'd have a much better market this way. Nothing says you can't do both, but i suspect you'll have an easier tome convincing people to upgrade with this option...
I don't know much about this particular option, does it have a parking brake for us manuL trans owners?
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No disrespect meant, but you make up about 5% of Fiero owners and your point is moot. Even people who have disposable income don't want to load it into their Fieros if they can avoid it.. Take a look at AkursedX's car, price drop after price drop its been on sale for months- its one of the quickest/nicest Fieros around apart from the guys running monster turbo 3800s- and what looks like well over 10k in parts alone he hasn't gotten a buyer yet- car is now at $7500. How about fieromadman with his turbo 3400, that thing is a work of art and he probably lost at least 5k selling that. The turbo N* that sold a few months ago was another example. Its just not happening in this economy.
or how about the two SD4's in the mall, each one for about $5k, and no-one's buying them... Wish to hell one was closer so I wouldn't have to tack on $1,300 shipping, then i'd buy one in a heartbeat!
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merciero Member
Posts: 220 From: knoxville tn Registered: Mar 2009
i understand where everyone is coming from, these upgrades arent exactly aimed for the average fiero owner, but more for the serious fiero modifier, and kitcar owners. i build parts for kitcars and this is a very affordable route for kitcar builders to get the large exotic brake look and some good stopping performance. the average fiero owner would be more likely to go with a baretta brake setup and be satisfied. as for the fieros that arent being sold for what is expected. that goes with any car. i had a 2nd gen eclipse show car i had well over 50 grand into it. i had around 12 grand in the motor alone. it was an absolutely beautiful car. sold it for 2000 and a 4 wheeler. i had a 04 gsxr 1000 stunt cage and awsome paint job. paid 12 grand put in about 4 grand. sold it for 5. you will never get out what you put in. i built a diablo for a guy local, his total bill was 24000. he put it up forsale a few months later. dropped the price 2 times before he sold it on ebay for 20000. he lost 4 grand for driving it around 2 months.
back on topic. what does everyone think a reasonable price for the brackets and rings would be.
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Aug 30th, 2011
merciero Member
Posts: 220 From: knoxville tn Registered: Mar 2009
No disrespect meant, but you make up about 5% of Fiero owners and your point is moot. Even people who have disposable income don't want to load it into their Fieros if they can avoid it.. Take a look at AkursedX's car, price drop after price drop its been on sale for months- its one of the quickest/nicest Fieros around apart from the guys running monster turbo 3800s- and what looks like well over 10k in parts alone he hasn't gotten a buyer yet- car is now at $7500. How about fieromadman with his turbo 3400, that thing is a work of art and he probably lost at least 5k selling that. The turbo N* that sold a few months ago was another example. Its just not happening in this economy.
I apologize if I derailed the thread to the OP.
kazoo- This mod will not work with 15" wheels, in fact it might not even work with some 16"s. Your stock spare won't work either.
I understand what you are saying, however, many of us who are putting larger amounts of cash into our cars have no intention of selling them so your point is also moot. I agree that a $1500 price tag isn't for everyone but why are we always going to lowest common denomenator?
Just my $0.02
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Sep 1st, 2011
Squeaky Member
Posts: 162 From: Edmonton, AB Registered: Sep 2009
Cheetahonline.com sells brackets for 12" Corvette rotors, that utilize 85' Corvette calipers for the front and 88'-96' Corvette calipers for the rear. All four brackets are $100.00. http://www.cheetahonline.co...-upgrade-adapters-3/
I priced it out, it could be done using reman calipers and new rotors all for around $800.00.
That's the route I plan on taking.
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merciero Member
Posts: 220 From: knoxville tn Registered: Mar 2009
yes but from what i understand there are alot of people on here that say cheetah rips you off, never delivers and when they do the bolt holes dont match up. but if it doesnt work out im always here........
Well, you said you can't come close to Cheetah's awesome price and quality, which means you want more than $100 for a set. Or, I read it wrong and you can do it for less....Throw out a price that you'd like to get and I'm sure we (the interested parties) can come up with a fair price (to you and for us). -Jason
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n7vrz Member
Posts: 521 From: Dixon Springs, TN Registered: Dec 2010
