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88 CJB 3800sc auto swap project by MulletproofMonk
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======= Edit ======
Sold to Brian in Indiana
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Well, I had a feeler thread out there and got a deposit to hold the car until the end of December. January is here so the car is back up for sale. I will be traveling for the next 3 months and will only be home on the weekends. Asking $3,000 Now firm at $2,800.

Chassis (this car was not a Delta 204-T car)
1988 Fiero CJB t-top "Formula Delta 204-T Clone" (purchased from fieroguy123)
Sunbird cluster
Custom interior (beige)
Custom paint (custom black paint with gold flake)
Front mount battery tray

Engine/Transmission installed in the car
(1) 1997 Buick Riviera motor and transmission with 60,000 miles (purchased from GT-X)
(1) Supercharger base gasket - installed
(1) SC coolant seals yellow - installed
(1) Water bypass gasket - installed
(1) Lower Intake Gasket - installed
(1) Throttle body gasket - installed
(1) Coolant Temperature sensor - not installed, new in box
(1) Modified Fiero to 3800sc thermostat without core (purchased from bmwguru) - installed
(1) Fiero Thermostat 195F Stant - installed
(1) Gasket Water Outlet flp - installed
(1) Cap Thermostat Housing - installed
(6) Copper Autolite 104 spark plugs - installed
(2) Valve Cover Gasket - installed
(2) Exhaust Manifold Gasket(s) - installed
(1) AC Delco 88 Oil Sender - not installed
(1) A/C Compressor Bypass Pulley - installed
(1) Supercharger belt 1997 Buick Riviera - installed
(1) Accessory belt unknown application - installed
(1) WCF 3800 motor mount - installed
(1) Fiero Engine Mount - installed
(2) Pontiac Transport transmission mounts - installed
(2) Fiero transmission mounts - installed

Fuel
(1) AC DELCO Part # EP381 - not installed, new in box
(6) Fuel Injector o-rings lower - installed
(6) Fuel Injector o-rings upper - installed
(1) Pair SS Fuel Line quick disconnect lines - not installed

ECM
(1) 1998 GTP PCM program by Sinister Performance

Wiring Harness
Wired as a 1998 harness. Still needs a couple pins wired.

Needs some things like coolant/heater lines, fuel lines, transmission cooler lines, replace the manual shifter with the automatic shifter, alignment.
EDIT: Just remembered last night the the starter needs installed too. I'll keep adding the things that I remember need to be done to this post.

Here is the 88 when it rolled of the trailer.

















Pictures of the car from October when I washed the car to get all the dust off it from sitting in the garage for a couple of months. It was raining outside also. After 3 hours in the rain, the inside of the car was dry, as Bobby said, the t-top doesn't leak.







Trunk, Drivers Side

Trunk, Passenger Side


Engine before it went in the car. I don't think I got a picture after I put the axles in.


Engine in the car.


May need to trim the hinge a little more for the belt. I cut it close.

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-Brian

My 87 GT Poly Suspension Upgrade (all pics) thread
Removing the roof panel

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MAN..... Thats a steal! Bump for a good buy! Wish I had the $$ handy now. GLWTS.
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Finish her and ask double; looks like your close... Its always a gamble buying someones unfinished project...

VERY nice price... If I wernt in the middle of a 3800sc swap myself, this would be in my garage
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Finish her and ask double; looks like your close... Its always a gamble buying someones unfinished project...

VERY nice price... If I wernt in the middle of a 3800sc swap myself, this would be in my garage


If I have it in 3 months when I stop traveling (and if I don't have to travel the 3 months after that) I will finish it.
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Report this Post01-06-2012 11:33 PM Click Here to See the Profile for 84se2m4Send a Private Message to 84se2m4Direct Link to This Post
Did that Fiero come with the dealer option delta 204t? I have never seen one before... If so what happened to the original sunbird motor?
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Originally posted by 84se2m4:
Did that Fiero come with the dealer option delta 204t? I have never seen one before... If so what happened to the original sunbird motor?


No. Bobby, fieroguy123, built a Delta 204-T replica. He installed a Sunbird Turbo 4 cyl and 5 speed transmission in the car. He sold the engine/transmission and I bought the rolling chassis.
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Report this Post01-07-2012 10:36 PM Click Here to See the Profile for FieroGTguyClick Here to visit FieroGTguy's HomePageSend a Private Message to FieroGTguyDirect Link to This Post
Would you trade for another 88 T-Top, 5spd, mid engine, nice looking? There is a catch, but you have to click the link to find out.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymot...me=STRK%3AMEUSX%3AIT

Greg

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Originally posted by FieroGTguy:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymot...me=STRK%3AMEUSX%3AIT



Think I just threw-up a lil in my mouth...

lol... bump for what should be a quick sale...
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Originally posted by FieroGTguy:
Would you trade for another 88 T-Top, 5spd, mid engine, nice looking? There is a catch, but you have to click the link to find out.

Greg


Greg,
Thanks, but not interested in another car. There are a few things on my want list for my purple GT that I would take as partial trade:

Tha Driver * Universal "STM" scoop: Part Number STM15001 * http://angelonearth.net/customfiberglass/


JimmyS * GT Style #1 Side Scoops with the holes and openings * http://www.fierofiberglass....ages/SideScoops.html


Rockcrawl hood


Also would take some AusFiero scoops, but they seem to run a lot higher in price then JimmyS scoops.
I'll add to this if there is something else I might take in partial trade.

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Originally posted by MulletproofMonk:

Rockcrawl hood




The Driver also makes a nice front vent also, have you seen it?

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When this car had that sunnies motor it was so sweet! I got to drive it! Good luck its worth whatever you sell it for and then some.
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so what is left to make it a driver? what % is left to do? How much $ to finish. Looking for a daily driver and it has to be an 88, auto. 3800SC would be a bonus.

Thanks

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Originally posted by qwikgta:
so what is left to make it a driver? what % is left to do?


I'll filter out the answer from the first post...
 
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Originally posted by MulletproofMonk:
Engine/Transmission installed in the car
(1) Coolant Temperature sensor - not installed, new in box

Fuel
(1) AC DELCO Part # EP381 - not installed, new in box
(1) Pair SS Fuel Line quick disconnect lines - not installed

Wiring Harness
Wired as a 1998 harness. Still needs a couple pins wired.

Needs some things like coolant/heater lines, fuel lines, transmission cooler lines, replace the manual shifter with the automatic shifter, alignment.
EDIT: Just remembered last night the the starter needs installed too. I'll keep adding the things that I remember need to be done to this post.


 
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How much $ to finish.


For what it would cost you, I guess that price is going to depend on if you finish it right or wrap it up with some used parts and half-ass completing it (I did an install for someone that wanted me to recycle his used hoses and clamps to save money, almost ruined the engine). I guess you need to buy your radiator and heater hoses, coolant to fill the system, oil and filter, transmission hose, clamps, some hose for vacuum lines, fuel hose to hookup the quick disconnects, alignment since the cradle has been out of the car. You need to install the starter, I have it here in the part pile. Since a few wires need soldered, you need a soldering iron, some solder, tape. Maybe some other things to complete the detail depending on if you like what you see (maybe you want to low-mount the alternator). I'm not going to guess at prices.

If you are asking what it would cost for me to finish the car for you (I have had a few PM's asking this)? Nothing. I'm traveling for work the next 3 months. I fly out of Dayton Monday morning and on Friday take a 2:30pm flight from Dallas that gets me home around 6pm. It gives me the weekend to do laundry, repack my bags, spend time with my wife and daughter, and sometimes I have to work on top of that. If I still own the car at the end of March, I will finish it and raise the price a couple grand if the market will allow it. I won't finish it and sell it for $3,000.
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I was not asking for you to finish, I understood that you would not be doing that. I guess when your familar with the swap, listing parts that need to be installed makes sence, the reason I was asking was seeing a list of parts, some installed, some not, didn't do it for me. I was attempting to gage the amount of time/money it would take to make it a running car. I am looking for a daily driver, and what I read makes this a good candidate. Having spent some time doing a 3.4 DOHC swap, I know how easy it is to get the first 90% done, but the last 10% becomes the toughest.

Thanks for the reply.

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Thank you for letting me and my brother stop in and check out this sweet car. It was everything we thought it would be, unfortunately we don't currently have the space for it. Trying to make room as we speak, if its still for sale when we are done I will let you know =D.

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I was not asking for you to finish, I understood that you would not be doing that. I guess when your familar with the swap, listing parts that need to be installed makes sence, the reason I was asking was seeing a list of parts, some installed, some not, didn't do it for me. I was attempting to gage the amount of time/money it would take to make it a running car.
Rob


Hope I didn't come off wrong, hope people read that post as fact, not emotional. If I had the time left I would finish it. I bought the chassis in late June and I started traveling every other week for work at the end of July. Getting this far was a pain with only every other weekend available. Then it started to get cold and I had to get all the cars in the garage (the deal with my wife is that cars go in the garage so we don't have to scrape snow at 7am). I can post a picture of my garage and you will see that most of the problem is getting around the two cars. I have two Fieros nose to tail in my 3rd bay, daily drivers are in the first two bays.
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Weekend "I am home" bump.
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Hope I didn't come off wrong, hope people read that post as fact, not emotional. If I had the time left I would finish it. I bought the chassis in late June and I started traveling every other week for work at the end of July. Getting this far was a pain with only every other weekend available. Then it started to get cold and I had to get all the cars in the garage (the deal with my wife is that cars go in the garage so we don't have to scrape snow at 7am). I can post a picture of my garage and you will see that most of the problem is getting around the two cars. I have two Fieros nose to tail in my 3rd bay, daily drivers are in the first two bays.
-Brian


No worries, like I said, I spent almost 6 years doing my DOHC swap, for the same reason as you. I was active duty Navy and deployed 4 times during the build. I'd be gone for months at a time, and the project just sat in the garage with no progress. When I did get home, I wanted to spend time with the family and so year after year went by.

Thanks for the reply.

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Back in town bump with firm price at $2,800.
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Another weekend home...
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Why is it all the great deals are always so far away, nice car that is well worth the asking price or more. Dan
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I actually saw the car in person when I went over there to sell him my old 3800sc exhaust, and help install the 3800SC onto the cradle. Very nice indeed.

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If the car was closer I would have snatched it up the first week.....Hell of a deal for someone.....

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Mstangs, you'll drive to Cali for a car. This is only OH. Sounds like a good reason for a roadtrip.
Bump for ya.
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I would give my left nut for that thing. Unfortunately, my wife would cut off everything else if I brought it home. GLWS.......
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If the car was closer I would have snatched it up the first week.....Hell of a deal for someone.....


Same. I would have a fleet of these things if I could.

That is a beautiful car.
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Mstangs, you'll drive to Cali for a car. This is only OH. Sounds like a good reason for a roadtrip.
Bump for ya.


I made the trip up there a few years back to buy a 3800 swap setup from the seller...Was a 28 hour trip straight there and back with a friend from work...Trip was not bad till about the 25th hour and both of us could not see straight....With gas as high as it is it would be cheaper to ship the car at this point.....
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Looks like a lot of the potential buyers are in Dallas... I need to get together with you guys while I am traveling down there to Garland TX. That is where I have been going and will be going every week until April or maybe May now.

Stephen did come up and get a 3800sc motor from me. That was pretty crazy.

I did a mapquest and it is roughly 1,000 miles from Dallas, TX to Bellbrook, OH. So if it is 2,000 round trip and your truck gets 12 mpg, that is 167 gallons of fuel. Gas average is about $3.50/gal so it would run you about $600 in gas. That doesn't include your time, food or hotel if you can't do a crazy straight run. I would think that you could ship it for around $600, but I have never looked into it.

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