Engine: 3.8L L67 from a 99 Regal GS, Reprogrammed by Sinister. 4T65EHD Trans Zzp performance shift kit and new OEM trans filter. 88 GT Cradle, rear trailing arm set from Fierostore. HT Motorsports strut relocation kit. 350lb springs. Cold air intake with K&N filter and Drycharger sock. Handmade 3” exhaust with Series 70 muffler and C6 tips.
Others: Fiero store upgraded front swayber. Archie battery box. 4/0 power cables supplying the power and excellent grounding. New battery. Sunbird turbo tach. Performance sound system. CD radio from a 99 grand prix. S10 brake booster. Rear wheels, 18x9 Front Wheels, 17x8 Tires, Yokohama S-Drive. 7,000 miles on’em Poly in all the suspension. No rust in the usual spots. Very clean frame. Cons: Been hit in the front and rear. Some damage to the nose and right fender. It’s mostly cosmetic. Headliner is rough, could use one of Archie’s replacements.
I have replacement fenders and a used nose that’s in good shape. Also have a no sunroof roof panel. All spare parts going with it.
The right tail and little GT logo is busted out. I am working on replacing them.
I have an extensive build list covering the entire project. Receipts, part numbers etc…
This car runs excellent and is currently my daily driver. Lots of other little things too. If you are interested we can get more detailed.
Asking for $6000 for it.
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Posts: 175 From: Georgetown, KY Registered: Mar 2010
Someone asked about interior and AC questions. AC: NO the AC is not running right now, the compressor is in place and the in car parts are ok. I have 3 sets of lines that are ready to be modified and mated together to make the system work but i haven't had the time.
Interior: posting some pics. the stereo has kenwood 4x10s in the front and kenwood excelon 4x6s in the b piller. the performance sound sub is one of those parts express 6.5 woofers. works well. Those 2 wires by the passengers seats are a USB power point and a micro-usb(phone) power point.
There is a crack, which just happened this month, by the right front speaker in the dash. seats are in good shape, swapped the drivers and passengers seat covers so the drivers seat is real good. No floor mats, wanted the fiero store ones but just didn't buy them yet.
Questions?
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Jun 21st, 2012
Anavaree Member
Posts: 175 From: Georgetown, KY Registered: Mar 2010
No, i mean 4/0 copper welding cable. The fiero was the second car i built and i was always having power distribution and grounding issues. So this time a wasnt messing around. Since i relocated the battery to the front i was going to have to run about 8 feet worth of cable to get the power to the engine. I had 4/0 lying around and did the math on resistance and voltage drop within a long run of wire, then a larger wire is necessary to supply the approx 600 amps to the starter. I also ran a piece of 4/0 from the negative terminal of the battery to the engine and several other ground wires from the engine to the frame. the engine itself is fully grounded to itself, heads-block, exhaust-block, etc.. Anywhere there is a sensor mounted in the engine that is utilizing a ground-in-shell type connection. this way there is no chance of having a bad ground through a sensor and causing the EMU to run funky. Thanks ~Jesse
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Jul 2nd, 2012
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Posts: 1006 From: The Peoples Republic of Wisconsin Registered: Sep 2005
For a GM high torque starter 400 amps is normal draw. They start at over 500 and usually drop down to 300 and change as the engine starts moving. Add in an extra 6' of cable from a front battery relocation and you need some serious cable. 2/0 welding cable is what is usually used. 4/0 is certainly overkill but I would also use it if I could get it free. Overkill is better than underkill.
For the record, I have seen and driven this car. It is exceptionally clean and a very well done swap. Whomever purchases it will not be disappointed.
Brian, That cycles the performance shift mode for the 4f65eHD trans. You can see in the picture of the instrument cluster the light in the upper right hand corner that says "Performance Shift" in blue. I used blue, as opposed to red, because in aviation a blue light or band in an instrument indicates "special operating conditions" and i am a licensed aircraft mechanic with a long history in aviaton. My car originally came with rear defrost in that position. The wiring is still intact and operational tucked in behind the panel. If you wanted to switch back to it you would just need a new switch.
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Nov 29th, 2012
Anavaree Member
Posts: 175 From: Georgetown, KY Registered: Mar 2010
Bump for you, beautiful car! This is a BARGAIN for someone trying to replicate this package (including myself). Wish I had the cash to purchase, good luck.
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Posts: 175 From: Georgetown, KY Registered: Mar 2010
Here are some pics from the trunk area. Several people have asked for them and i cant believe that i didn't think to do it myself. It was dark out but i think the images are ok.
I couldnt back away for any better wide angle pics and hold the flashlight at the same time. If you guys need better images I can try again tomorrow. Or if you want close ups or something. Jesse
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If you can keep your foot out of it, which is hard to do with a car like this, i have been getting 28mpg. Not great but pretty good for a supercharged. I have the cruise module but it is not installed yet. Just mount it and land the wires and it should work fine.
Here are a couple of pictures of the visible damage to the frame. It is just in front of the drivers headlight. I cant see any other damage. If I removed the entire front end I might find something else but i dont think so.
BUMP! Anybody want this thing. Looking to sell soon. Make me an offer. I can deliver the car and spare parts, within a reasonable distance, for the cost of gas. Jesse
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Posts: 5374 From: Grand Rapids, MI. USA Registered: Jun 2002
Nice car. What I always wanted. More than my insurance settlement on my car. The picture of the damage is that the piece that is in front of the radiator support? Is the picture of the front with the damage? Is the S10 brake booster the only mod to the brake system? You mentioned 88 rear cradle. I assume you have 88 rear brakes on it. What if you keep the 18" wheels & tires ?
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Yes I believe that it is just forward and to the left of the rad support. does not affect the rad at all though. Cant really see it effecting anything important. If you are interested I can get some more pics tomorrow and try to show the damage better. Jesse
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Yes I believe that it is just forward and to the left of the rad support. does not affect the rad at all though. Cant really see it effecting anything important. If you are interested I can get some more pics tomorrow and try to show the damage better. Jesse
I noticed the hood hinges are in the position that they should be in. Mine are not as the PO hit something and it wasnt repaired properly yet the hood still shuts and functions ok.
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Antenna is inside the front right fender, reception is fine. Rocker plugs i have but i am looking to replace the retention rivets first. That pic of the brake booster was before i did the swap. The entire clutch system has been removed. No clutch master or any of its lines remain. Good eyes. ~Jesse
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No problem. I just drove it to MIS in September for the rusty Wallace experience. My parents still live up in Waterford. It was a little tiring due to no cruise but once i took off my shoes and jammed my foot into place it held a pretty solid 85 the whole way.
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Posts: 175 From: Georgetown, KY Registered: Mar 2010
Someone asked these questions so i thought I would share with all.
Clean Title Yes, all new ball joints, tie rods, shocks and struts. KYB or Monroe, can't remember off hand. I have an extensive build book which has all the secrets in it. Yes, poly all around. The impact in the front was before I got the car and it aligned just fine. The rear hit was just a "gentle" bump which smooshed the taillight. there was no damage to the frame or anything there. The radiator is original but the whole system has been flushed many times during the swap process. The hoses are new since I had to make custom installs for the swap. and yes the water pump is new. Also new alternator, new belts and rad fan motor. Jesse
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Dec 31st, 2012
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Posts: 175 From: Georgetown, KY Registered: Mar 2010
More pictures and info someone else has been asking about.
Parking brake, no. Auto transmission so i didn't feel the need to build the system. Front brakes are still 87 but with good rotors and pads. I have a complete 88 front end sitting in my garage that I have been trying to sell. It includes some slightly damaged 88 coolant tubes and the brackets to mount the suspension to the 87 frame. Complete with brakes and good wheel bearings. For the right price, which i am willing to work on, i can throw that in as well. I have an 87 and an 88 rear trunk carpet available. Due to the current exhaust setup I cannot put the carpet in, the trunk gets too hot. I was fabricating a heat shield from the factory original to fit but I have not had the time to finish. All my spare parts will come with the car, all project pieces, everything. This includes a spare nose and both front fenders and a "no sunroof" roof. The antenna is fine, I was planning on erasing the hole on the fender when I finished the body work but I am not finishing the car now.
Well, about the parking brake, it is an Automatic transmission. Put it in park and its not going anywhere. The trunk will need a heat shield installed to prevent the heat build up, i was working on it but didn't have the time to complete. I have not cut the trunk and the next option that I was thinking about was cutting the forward bulkhead of the trunk, moving it in about an inch and re welding it. Lose an inch of usable space and solve the heat issue. The battery was relocated up front and I don't have a spare in there at all right now. I think the standard spare will fit in there around Archies battery box, I used a side post battery but I haven't tried. I believe that I have the spare running around here somewhere. Ill check. I have used Premium in it the entire time. Not skimping on that and risking knock. Usually Shell V-Power.
I had the trunk seal out to work on it and never put it back in. I have it but its not in the greatest of shape. Needs one of inifiniwills replacements, but its still in one piece. Trunk light, i have it somewhere again, never put it back in since I still haven't resolved the heat issue. I have a heat shield but it needs to be modified to work with the exhaust I built. No, I don't plan on installing it now, i really don't have the time. Body work. I was going to repair the damaged pieces, delete the antenna hole, couple of little things then paint. otherwise I wanted stock looking. The tail lights weren't an issue until some idiot at work rubbed me. I was planning on replacing them before I sold, but now that I am unemployed I can't afford to buys tails. Jack and accessories, not sure will have to dig around in the garage. Don't think i would have thrown them out. Wires and relays. I haven't wire managed them yet so they still look a little hokey. They power an extra switched power point in the car, under the dash i used for a RF transmitter. Plus an always on microUSB port and Full size USB port which come out from under the center console. I used them for my phone and iPod charger. There is plenty of room for expansion in the relay block for future projects. My big plan for that was to control the water chilling control for my water-to-water inter-cooler I was going to install in my GenV Supercharger install. Also for my water spray and aux cooling systems. Of course this project never happened. Yes an archies tray. That is as far forward as it will go without hitting the up-sized front sway bar. Also as noted in my post I am using huge power wires and they were better coming up through the aft side of the tray. Sunroof. No issue i just don't really like sunroof cars. Unfortunately the last 5 cars which I have owned have all been sunroof cars and the Fiero is the only one that I could easily change. new panel and new liner and done. Was going to paint the car anyways.
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Jan 1st, 2013
solotwo Member
Posts: 5374 From: Grand Rapids, MI. USA Registered: Jun 2002
Are the cooling tubes unmolested? I was working at dealership-Berger Motor Sales in Ionia and had them do lower ball joint and alignment. The "best tech" who was there a long time worked on it. Well this educated monkey bent my coolent tubes.