$275 shipped for the two brackets with motor mounts $110 for cable adapters $122 shipped Priority to US $40 for the HTOB adapter NEED CORE $390 shipped for the whole package
Cables from your Isuzu or Getrag can be used! We sell two different adapter kits
Kit fits both 84-87 and 88
As always, all parts come powdercoated in gloss black. If you want another color, just ask. No extra charge
Only modifications needed are 2 holes drilled in the cradle. 1 for the front mount and 1 for the rear
Need any swap parts? We've got those too! Buy everything now and save
i will be on that list for the mounts, for 3800 and f23. plus dogbone. also want to see the pictures of mounts, and installed mounts. this is for 84-87, not for 88's only? I know theres a couple of methods avilable for the gear and selector cables, whats yours? just incase I go that route.
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Erik Member
Posts: 5625 From: Des Moines, Iowa Registered: Jul 2002
For anyone considering an F23, I am VERY happy with the strength and performance of this transmission with a 3800 SC. I have started beating on it, and it can take the abuse very well. The fifth gear idles a little high for my liking (I have the Cavalier gear ratios, not the Cobalt), but overall it is a much better feel than the original Getrag, and it just "feels" stronger
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fieroall Member
Posts: 403 From: Great White North Registered: Feb 2008
just a heads up, I bought some mounts and brackets from FriendOfYours. I have not installed them yet as I'm not that far into my swap at the moment however I've seen a lot of custom parts over the years and the parts I received from him look to be top notch quality. Great craftsmanship and a great person to deal with. I will do business with him again as I will need some more of his adapters as I progress with the Fiero.
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just a heads up, I bought some mounts and brackets from FriendOfYours. I have not installed them yet as I'm not that far into my swap at the moment however I've seen a lot of custom parts over the years and the parts I received from him look to be top notch quality. Great craftsmanship and a great person to deal with. I will do business with him again as I will need some more of his adapters as I progress with the Fiero.
Thank you! Your kind words are very appreciated
It is taking longer than planned to get the shift adaptions built. But, we are going to be selling two versions. One that will accommodate stock getrag cables and another for isuzu. No need to buy new cables!
All parts come powder coated black but other colors can be done for no extra charge
These mounts were designed to equally load all bolts and provide more strength than you could ever need
This was a severely damaged cradle so don't mind the welded plate. The mounts provided will fit the factory holes
There are 4 bolts on the rear mount and 5 on the front
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Ryanstalin Member
Posts: 300 From: Phenix city, Al, usa Registered: Jan 2012
I couldnt see how the last mount tied in with the cradle. but they do look thick edit.. this looks like an 88 cradle. that wont work for 84-87.. the cradles are different.
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How thick is the steel stock used for the brackets? They appear to be about 1/4 inch. Anyhow it would be sweet if you can get away with stock getrag cables with your shift and select brackets.
i may be insterested in the shifting bracket as well, i do have a bracket that will work, if i modify the select arm on the transmission, however i really want to know with yours how would you modify, do we need to pull the arms off the transmission? and whats different between the isuzu five speed, and getrag (cable wise) i thought they are the same, but you may be talking about the 4-speed isuzu. which i have the 5-speed isuzu. but i have this pretty f23 that just cant wait to drop in. i dont mind if we do have to pull the arms off the transmission and swing them around 180* for it to work. but i want to know what your plan is. because i already paid 50 for the bracket i have now. but if yours is cleaner i'd buy that instead.
i may be insterested in the shifting bracket as well, i do have a bracket that will work, if i modify the select arm on the transmission, however i really want to know with yours how would you modify, do we need to pull the arms off the transmission? and whats different between the isuzu five speed, and getrag (cable wise) i thought they are the same, but you may be talking about the 4-speed isuzu. which i have the 5-speed isuzu. but i have this pretty f23 that just cant wait to drop in. i dont mind if we do have to pull the arms off the transmission and swing them around 180* for it to work. but i want to know what your plan is. because i already paid 50 for the bracket i have now. but if yours is cleaner i'd buy that instead.
You will have to pull the select arm off to replace with the one we send you. Very simple. Little clip on the bottom and it slides right off
The getrag and isuzu cables are very different, as well as the 4 speed muncie
and on an '87 cradle just for you
Video of the shifter
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spartan_chaz Member
Posts: 450 From: Lawrenceville, GA, US Registered: Nov 2011
sorry if this is a little off topic but, i have the 4spd muncie trans and im doing a 3800SC swap. im leaving my engine stock so my muncie should hold for a bit and i want to do an F23 swap later to feel better about adding power to it. I assume i have to get cables from a 5spd but do i also have to get a 5spd shifter assembly in able to use the 5spd trans?
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1986 Fiero GT Member
Posts: 3383 From: Eden, NY USA Registered: Mar 2005
They are available right now. Isuzu and the getrag are almost identical but with different hold downs due to length , angle and the crimps around the transmission ends.
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Erik Member
Posts: 5625 From: Des Moines, Iowa Registered: Jul 2002
Nothing bad meant, it obviously works, as shown. Nothing wrong with your design, but to me it seems that all the welds and links and pivots makes it seem a tad... fragile? Personally, I would take a longer cable (and yes, slightly higher shift effort, but nothing noticeable when you are actually driving it) and one simple cable attachment bracket over a complex linkage that uses an OEM shift cable. Of course if a customer already has good OEM cables, let alone new ones, then I could see the reasoning in going that route.
Edit: 30 years eh? You still using carbs and points?
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I like the design, it is obviously very robust for the intended purpose. Although I am more than capable of building my own shift mechanism I think this will save me some time as I plan on using one for my daily driver 3.4 DOHC as well as using one for my N* swap. I also like the idea of using stock unmodified cables.
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Ryanstalin Member
Posts: 300 From: Phenix city, Al, usa Registered: Jan 2012
i can see where that will work then. i did notice the absense of the weight for the selector. I actually thought you needed that for the smooth shift. but since i seen the video Im confident, with mattwa's setup all you have to do is add an extension on the position piece. the only problem i have with that is the length. im only trying to provide my opinion. Im still interested, tho its more complicated built. and its not as pretty, but if its strong, and it works. I want it. the mounts although not pretty look very thick and the welds look very good. i am going to be on the train soon for these parts. what about an adapter for the clutch hydraulics? if you got that i will try to get all three. plus the motor mount and dogbone. it wont be til aug second, so dont run out. this-
Uploaded with ImageShack.us whats i was trying to get at, is that looks alot cleaner, and with your skills, you would lose less money and parts. I would however pay the same price, just for that little piece already modified to go in, I do have the bracket. but then again, Im not sure if this would fit the same for getrag, isuzu 5/4 speed cables. so your way may actually be the only interchangable one.
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i can see where that will work then. i did notice the absense of the weight for the selector. I actually thought you needed that for the smooth shift. but since i seen the video Im confident, with mattwa's setup all you have to do is add an extension on the position piece. the only problem i have with that is the length. im only trying to provide my opinion. Im still interested, tho its more complicated built. and its not as pretty, but if its strong, and it works. I want it. the mounts although not pretty look very thick and the welds look very good. i am going to be on the train soon for these parts. what about an adapter for the clutch hydraulics? if you got that i will try to get all three. plus the motor mount and dogbone. it wont be til aug second, so dont run out.
whats i was trying to get at, is that looks alot cleaner, and with your skills, you would lose less money and parts. I would however pay the same price, just for that little piece already modified to go in, I do have the bracket. but then again, Im not sure if this would fit the same for getrag, isuzu 5/4 speed cables. so your way may actually be the only interchangable one.
Nothing was removed from the shift linkage aside from the unused ball mount on the select arm
It will look factory when powder coated. Understand right now that is just bare metal and welds that have not been ground or anything. All the pieces were not cut on our cnc, they were plasma cut by hand so we could just get it together and have a working prototype
The cable they use costs $120 and is significantly longer. I guarantee you that it requires a good amount more effort than our solution. You can shift with just your index finger using our bracket
And your Isuzu cables will not work with the other way
We will have a HTOB adapter here soon
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Ryanstalin Member
Posts: 300 From: Phenix city, Al, usa Registered: Jan 2012
well then hats off to you. I do want to keep my stock cable, not a custom length, just incase it breaks later down the road, my stock cable will be cheaper to replace then a custom one. I do like your setup, I watched the video, and did notice how easy it did shift. so you got my vote. I'll end up putting all of your parts under the test in my 3800sc/f23 setup. I plan on driving it a little rough on some track days. edit: I really do appreciate what Yall are doing for the fiero community. I hope my posts dont seem negative in any way, It looks like alot of work you guys are going through trying to make these setups work with the many different combinations of fiero swaps. I cant wait to buy, and use these parts everyday. And I hope that your shop gets its rewards as well.
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Ryanstalin Member
Posts: 300 From: Phenix city, Al, usa Registered: Jan 2012
I'm interested in one of these setups but not until the fall. What clutch do you guys recommend for a maximum of 300hp? I've been considering a sprung 6-puck but are there any other options that aren't too expensive?