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FOYRacing True Dual 3800/4.9l Headers FS by FriendOfYours
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The list of parts we build is just getting longer and longer!

Feel free to call us with any questions at:

(203) 433-2835

Our hours of operation are 9AM-6PM PST Monday - Friday








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They are built using 1 5/8" primaries into 2.5" collectors - 16g mild steel. No stainless will be made as of right now. All joints are connects with 3 bolt 3/8" flanges


They come ceramic coated!


They are offered in two forms:

1) They will follow the Fiero path and the y-pipe will connect to the rest of the Fiero system. Using the original pipe is not recommended! It is much too small
This solution leaves ample room for catalytic converter, full size muffler and no cramped bends

2) This is a TRUE DUAL and EQUAL LENGTH solution. 28" primaries. A single dual in dual out xpipe muffler is used. Each bank has it's own complete system. The odd bank will go over the tranny, down, through the muffler and out the passenger side. The even bank will drop down, towards the pulley side and exits the muffler on the driver side.

Myself and our other welder have both a decade of experience each, are WABO certified and we guarantee your headers to last forever. Any problems? Send them back! We'll pay the postage!

Going turbo? We can replace the traditional y-pipe with one fitted with whatever flange you need for your turbo!

Pricing as of right now, is as follows:

Set 1: $600
Set 2: $800

Prices include shipping to the US

We welcome all comments and questions. If you aren't sure what you want to go with, feel free to call and someone will be happy to discuss your options with you.

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3.4TDC/4.9l/3800(SC) Swap kits and parts

F23 Transmission Kits

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Polish and Powder Coating

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Man! Just paid a lot to have a custom y pipe made for mine now this pops up.
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Nice to have another option for 3800 headers!

Lifetime warranty on mild steel header? That may come back to haunt you
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Properly coated headers will last forever

We're going on 90k miles with the set we built for our Firebird about 10 years ago
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Interesting!!!
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Do you have any pics of the headers?
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They will be ready on Monday the 20th
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...My bad....

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Originally posted by John316:

Bump for pics.


 
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They will be ready on Monday the 20th


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I know things are a little slower on the West Coast.... Where are the pictures?
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Report this Post08-21-2012 04:17 PM Click Here to See the Profile for FriendOfYoursSend a Private Message to FriendOfYoursDirect Link to This Post
We are still waiting on our custom mufflers we ordered and the rest of the ubends. We had a big run done and they should have been done yesterday but of course not

We don't wanna finish anything up until we can be sure it all fits perfectly. Both 2.5" will have flex pipes midway to avoid cracking

These will fit auto, getrag and isuzu with no modifications to cables or slaves. Two versions for cars with low mount and those without





We decided to incorporate ceramic coating into the cost

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You are ceramic coating the inside, not the outside of the pipes, correct?

I have been told by a few racers recently that coating the inside of the pipes makes more sense to keep the heat in... Not sure if this is true.

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Report this Post08-25-2012 09:33 AM Click Here to See the Profile for cam-a-lotSend a Private Message to cam-a-lotDirect Link to This Post
Any more pictures? Looking to see the different designs (Stock fiero route, straight back...)
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Report this Post08-26-2012 07:28 PM Click Here to See the Profile for FriendOfYoursSend a Private Message to FriendOfYoursDirect Link to This Post
We've ditched the straight back design but will still have the Fiero route. The mufflers should be here tomorrow and we'll have more pics
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Didn't see your earlier comment. They are coated inside and out
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Would it be possible to see installed pics of the 3 different designs offered? I am interested but need better pictures to decide which way to go

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We are still waiting on our mufflers... but everything else is done. We are no longer going to make stock exit. Just Fiero route and the true dual
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Very interested been looking for a set that follow the stock route can't wait to see pictures....

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Fieros: 85 gt(stock 4cyl), parts car 86 se(everything except automatic), 86 SE 3800 Series 2 conversion car.

Build Thread: https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum2/HTML/121858.html

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It'll be about a month before we get the stock routing finished

Unless you need a catalytic converter, I would suggest going with the true dual. More power and better sound.
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Notice that the picture shows the header on the rear with a large "donut" turn at the rear on the #2 cylinder. This looks to be restrictive. Point is that with 3800 headers you need to be cautious of pipe size and how they route . Otherwise you end up with headers that are more restrictive than stock manifolds. I know of a guy who put a set of $800 SS WCF Fieros on his 3800SC and ended up with KR's that he didn't have prior to installation. It might be best to dyno test before confirming the final design for production.

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Dennis, PM if you want to complain about a MALL thread. WCF has issue because their primaries are too small. As long as the curves are smooth and at the correct radius, the only thing that matters is volume

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Definitely interested and I will be buying a set of headers for my 3800 swap within the next 4-5 months, most likely from you... Set #1 is one that will exit in the stock location? (pics of that?)

Do you plan to offer these in stainless versions too?

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It'll be about a month before we get the stock routing finished

Unless you need a catalytic converter, I would suggest going with the true dual. More power and better sound.


I like more power and better sound, and here we don't need any emission tests or inspections. Just need headers and fuel rail to finish the motor and trans.

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bump


More pics of set 1?

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I am also interested, but it will be difficult to make a sale without proper pictures. You guys need to bite the bullet and make one of each (complete) and take some good pictures, including installed pics on a block. You are far more likely to make a sale if people know exactly what they are getting
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I just posted a week ago that it will be a month before we get the others done
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Report this Post09-20-2012 07:50 PM Click Here to See the Profile for cam-a-lotSend a Private Message to cam-a-lotDirect Link to This Post
Interested in the dual exhaust, F23 mounts and 3800 mounts... Determined to fix up my crappy swap so that the engine and trans don't move so much.. and might as well put a proper exhaust on at the same time! Your trans mounts look very beefy

PM and email sent- As soon as you are ready with some pictures showing the complete exhaust, clamping system, etc, we should be good to go!

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We are going to have dyno numbers posted this upcoming weekend

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It would be nice to have the true dual but the problem I would have is I was going to put a full sized resonator in the area where the stock cat would be, then try to replicate a stock look to the tips/rear.

Is there anyway to make the dual setup look stock while not being real raspy/poppy?

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It does look stock.










The true dual uses a single dual in dual out xpipe stainless magnaflow muffler. We'll have video from the dyno with sound this weekend

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Looks nice. Once you are ready, please post a complete picture of the entire exhaust (out of the car) so we can see the clamping, etc. I plan to order a ceramic coated set shortly.

Do you recommend any kind of a gasket between the header and the heads?

Looking forward to the video with audio to hear what they sound like


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Factory steel gaskets
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does the 3800 set Work with a/c components intact?

Very nice looking setup. I think this is what I have been saving for!
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They do! No interference at all
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Can't get "subscribe" to show up on my phone, so "watching".. Looks interesting!
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Same here.. I am ready to pull the trigger once the complete product is shown clearly, described in detail and audio is available of how it sounds. I know the info has been available in bits and pieces, but it would be great if there was a new thread with full pictures of the entire system

By detail I mean..

-size, material, and tube thickness of primaries
-bit of info on the ceramic coating
-description and pictures of clamping (3 bolt flange? V bands, etc)
-hangers? where do they attach?
-diameter, material and thickness of pipes, any additional support needed such as hangers, brackets,
-pics and description of any flex pipe being used

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Report this Post09-28-2012 02:00 PM Click Here to See the Profile for FriendOfYoursSend a Private Message to FriendOfYoursDirect Link to This Post
Do you not read anything I write to you? lol

Nearly all of the info you just asked for has been in the OP since the day we made the thread

Again, WE WILL HAVE PICTURES AND SOUND ON DYNO DAY ON THE FIRST

That's capped so everyone will hopefully see it

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