this will only work with THEIR motor mounts for the 3.8 Swap
This is factual info and not a knock on anyones product. WCF Use to make a dogbone mount like this that fit on the alternator bracket bolts and customers kept breaking the alternator mounts. The trans side dogbone mount that they currently sell is only good as a second dog bone as it mounts to a non-reinforced part of the trunk. If you reinforce the trunk wall where it mounts it will work. I have heard no bad reports on FOY's dog bone mount yet but it looks like the same design as WCF. I would suggest mounting your dog bone mount to the block with a heavy steel bracket not to the alternator bracket. My custom three point dog bone mount mounts to the block in two places and the idler bracket bolt only on one. You've got gobs of torque that a dog bone must hold and it must be built sturdy.
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Posts: 2041 From: Edison, NJ USA Registered: Aug 2009
Our dogbone isn't even needed for a mild modded 3800SC. We use 4 mounts down low and the dogbone. I drive my l67 every day without one
WCF just uses a single front engine mount, hence the breaking of alt brackets
I sent you a PM about the DOG BONE and you STILL haven't replied!
You guys should make it very clear that your parts are only intended to be used with your products.
Things I purchased from you that had issues: 1: Coolant neck: holes weren't elongated 2: Dog Bone: Holes don't line up when dog bone is placed in Firewall bracket and dogbone needs to be reangled down and over. Not intended for other mounts but yours. 3: Axle: too short, only for your mounts 4: Down Pipe: hits firewall. Once again I guess only for your mounts 5: Low mount alt bracket: missing spacer (you told me "Just use washers") Alt. bracket also sits very close to spark plug.. Can't blame that one on your motor mounts 6: Auto Shifter bracke: Got sent a used / customer made one. However you sent me the correct one after seeing pictures of the first one sent. 7: Shipping on Axle, Coolant neck and Auto shift bracket took a month!
How am I supposed to know it won't work with others? We have only had one other person use our parts with FieroX mounts, and it is at the same time as you.
Your other complaints do not affect functionality in. Sorry it took so long, you already know things are difficult here. Good luck getting a month turn around from the other TWO large vendors. I have gone out of my way to fix any little issue that might have happened. It is not our fault that someone elses mounts don't work with our products
You said you were going to send the dogbone like two weeks ago, what am I supposed to respond to?
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Posts: 2041 From: Edison, NJ USA Registered: Aug 2009
How am I supposed to know it won't work with others? We have only had one other person use our parts with FieroX mounts, and it is at the same time as you.
Your other complaints do not affect functionality in. Sorry it took so long, you already know things are difficult here. Good luck getting a month turn around from the other TWO large vendors. I have gone out of my way to fix any little issue that might have happened. It is not our fault that someone elses mounts don't work with our products
You said you were going to send the dogbone like two weeks ago, what am I supposed to respond to?
I sent you PM's and got no replies.
Lets see, How much money did I spend on you guys
1: Coolant neck: $70 2: Dog Bone: $??. 3: Axle: $170 4: Down Pipe: hits firewall. $80 5: Low mount alt bracket: $75 6: Auto Shifter bracke: $70.
Close to $500 and less then half ($215) can be used with out major MODS =$$
Thats why i'm trying to sell your Pieces to try to get my money back to purchase pieces that will work on my car.
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Posts: 3468 From: Red Deer, alberta,canada Registered: Dec 2002
I did this and I had to make some mods to my motor mount so it would sit level
Also had to "adjust" motor mounts to sit level and even with in the engine bay. However,When I purchased the axle he didn't mention anything about his mounts being any different the the other 3 major company mounts. Only after I question it did he add anything to his posting. I guess how his mounts position the engine in the bay would explain the axle length. I would also give into why the dog bone is too far to the driver side. However how far it sticks upis another story It sticks up about 3 inches above the Fiero Dog Bone hole. So I guess his engine mounts puts the engine 3 inches lower then everyone elses also.
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Posts: 2041 From: Edison, NJ USA Registered: Aug 2009