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Correct clutch pedal bushings? Where to find? by FieroCat
Started on: 05-17-2014 06:57 PM
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Report this Post05-17-2014 06:57 PM Click Here to See the Profile for FieroCatSend a Private Message to FieroCatEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Only thing left I have to do in my overhaul of the clutch hydraulic system is to find the correct bushing for the clutch pedal/master cylinder banjo connection. The one that was on there before worked fine, but every one that I've used after installing the new cylinder (AND installing the original banjo on it) has popped off after pressing the pedal a few times.

The Fiero store sells one that seems to fit, but it popped off too. There seems to be too much outward pressure on the bushing that keeps pushing it off the pedal pin.
Are there better versions of these bushings that will keep the banjo from popping off? Or does this mean the pedal is bent?
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Report this Post05-17-2014 10:08 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Gall757Send a Private Message to Gall757Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Something else is wrong. Is your clutch pedal bent? Is your banjo upside-down?

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Report this Post05-17-2014 11:54 PM Click Here to See the Profile for FieroCatSend a Private Message to FieroCatEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Banjo loop is pointed upwards. Pedal sticks about a half inch above the brake pedal, but doesn't appear bent.
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Report this Post05-18-2014 11:21 AM Click Here to See the Profile for FieroCatSend a Private Message to FieroCatEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
It doesn't appear to have that bend in the U-shaped part, looks fairly straight like the one on the right. But it's possible that it's just slightly bent enough to cause the pin to jump off.

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Report this Post05-18-2014 11:30 AM Click Here to See the Profile for FieroJimmySend a Private Message to FieroJimmyEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
If you've got the washer and cotter pin installed it shouldn't be able to pop off. Did you remember to reinstall them?
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Report this Post05-18-2014 04:28 PM Click Here to See the Profile for FieroCatSend a Private Message to FieroCatEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
There isn't a hole for a cotter pin to slide through. Just a lip for the plastic bushing to slip over:

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That is unusual. Maybe the pedal is from a FWD car?? I've never seen that in a Fiero. But drill a hole in it and use a clevis pin, not a cotter pin. Probably taking it out would be best to drill a hole in it. Will be a bit tough to do but can be done.

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Report this Post05-18-2014 07:00 PM Click Here to See the Profile for FieroCatSend a Private Message to FieroCatEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Ok, I was a bit confused about the pin myself. I am thinking of getting the steel pedal from the Fiero Store and taking care of the pin issue that way.

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Report this Post05-18-2014 09:46 PM Click Here to See the Profile for FieroJimmySend a Private Message to FieroJimmyEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I've never seen that style in a Fiero, either. You may be able to get an e clip assortment in the help section and find one that will fit. Otherwise drilling or replacing seem like your only options.
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Report this Post05-19-2014 10:31 AM Click Here to See the Profile for FieroCatSend a Private Message to FieroCatEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I hadn't thought of e clips, that's a good idea. I may try that first, if they are able to withstand the force of the banjo pulling to the side, but I think I'll eventually replace the pedal with the steel one anyway. Thanks!

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Report this Post05-20-2014 03:58 PM Click Here to See the Profile for FieroCatSend a Private Message to FieroCatEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Picked up an assortment of e clips at Harbor Freight and they worked like a charm! Snapped on the lip and couldn't get it off without some hefty pliers.
Driven it a few times now and it's holding the banjo on firmly.
Thanks for the suggestion!

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Report this Post05-20-2014 09:41 PM Click Here to See the Profile for fierogt28Send a Private Message to fierogt28Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Ya, get the fiero store pedal. You won't be disappointed, infact it will be to your
advantage on getting one. In both of my 88s, I have the steel pedal from TFS.

Get 2 new upper pivot plastic bushings on installation. You'll be set for many years to
come.

Cheers...

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Report this Post05-21-2014 08:02 AM Click Here to See the Profile for sardonyx247Click Here to visit sardonyx247's HomePageSend a Private Message to sardonyx247Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Let me clear things up.
That style is common, it is just dependand on year/style. I have seen LOTs of them, it is stock.
You use a R-Clip to hold it in, washer too I think.


Now for the whole steel pedal thing, I bought into that BS along time ago too, I mean; later years used steel.?.? everyone says the pedals bend, so steel seems better, sounds right.?.?

Well the part that bends is the U part, and that part on the aluminum pedal IS steel, it is steel on both types. It is not the aluminum part that bends.
I have seen both pedal types with the same type of bends, the U.
And as seen above different years have different clutch pedal pin types. There are a few different styles.

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Originally posted by sardonyx247:

Let me clear things up.
That style is common, it is just dependand on year/style. I have seen LOTs of them, it is stock.
You use a R-Clip to hold it in, washer too I think.


Now for the whole steel pedal thing, I bought into that BS along time ago too, I mean; later years used steel.?.? everyone says the pedals bend, so steel seems better, sounds right.?.?

Well the part that bends is the U part, and that part on the aluminum pedal IS steel, it is steel on both types. It is not the aluminum part that bends.
I have seen both pedal types with the same type of bends, the U.
And as seen above different years have different clutch pedal pin types. There are a few different styles.



Yeap,. You are completly right.
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Report this Post05-21-2014 10:26 AM Click Here to See the Profile for FieroCatSend a Private Message to FieroCatEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Would a R-Clip still work without the hole drilled through the middle? The e-clips seem to work really well so far.

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Originally posted by FieroCat:

Would a R-Clip still work without the hole drilled through the middle? The e-clips seem to work really well so far.



Yes, as that is how they come stock.
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