The LS4 Impala SS and Monte Carlo SS were the ones from Chevy.
For Pontiac, there was a Bonneville GXP that had a Northstar, as well as the Grand Prix GXP with the LS4. The Olds Aurora had the smaller 4.0 Northstar series engine too. And the Buick Lucerne came with a Northstar or an LS4, for a few different years. Then of course all the Cadillacs.
The 60's to early 80's TH425 and TH325-4 have the BOP pattern, but it shares the dowel pin locations and the two lower bolt holes with the SBC pattern and thin adapter plates are available to mount a SBC to them for less than $50. http://www.speedwaymotors.c...-6gbXYPGBRq5mbql-8Xt 9re_PW0qq2Y2VzFqSktxRoCG1Tw_wcB
These are longitudinal transaxles and here is an example swap with one of them:
You can also flip the diff and put the back of the transmission facing forward to move more weight forward in the chassis, but those transmission are still pretty heavy.
I saw an adapter on ebay for $39. those Trans are like "Hensteeth" and I believe required a special oil pan to get over the Axle. Back to the Orig. Question. So, I "gather", there were NO late model Front Wheel Drive Cars with a Real CHEVY (350 OR lt1), or 4.3. After that point I don't consider the rest as Chevy, just Corporate. They have nothing to do with the original design Chevy V8 engine. Thanks
I saw an adapter on ebay for $39. those Trans are like "Hensteeth" and I believe required a special oil pan to get over the Axle. Back to the Orig. Question. So, I "gather", there were NO late model Front Wheel Drive Cars with a Real CHEVY (350 OR lt1), or 4.3. After that point I don't consider the rest as Chevy, just Corporate. They have nothing to do with the original design Chevy V8 engine. Thanks
No, there is nothing with a Gen I small block in FWD configuration. The Gen II LT1 and LT4 were corporate too, but closer to the original SBC than any LSx engines are.
just wondering. IF there was a V8 chevy front wheel drive factory made, the engine/trans could be tossed right into a fiero without engine to trans Adapters. just a thought. I'm making a FULL Custom using a Fiero chassis, chopped roof, fully hand made custom 1/4s, rear panel, doors, front end, interior... "Everything" will be 1 off. haven't decided on a "drivetrain" yet.
just wondering. IF there was a V8 chevy front wheel drive factory made, the engine/trans could be tossed right into a fiero without engine to trans Adapters. just a thought. I'm making a FULL Custom using a Fiero chassis, chopped roof, fully hand made custom 1/4s, rear panel, doors, front end, interior... "Everything" will be 1 off. haven't decided on a "drivetrain" yet.
If you want a carbed 350 or TPI, it's not happening. If you want an LSx, then the LS4 with the 4t65e-HD is not a too difficult swap.
just wondering. IF there was a V8 chevy front wheel drive factory made, the engine/trans could be tossed right into a fiero without engine to trans Adapters. just a thought. I'm making a FULL Custom using a Fiero chassis, chopped roof, fully hand made custom 1/4s, rear panel, doors, front end, interior... "Everything" will be 1 off. haven't decided on a "drivetrain" yet.
Closest to that is the LS4 and it's transmission. Custom mounts and lots of custom wiring. Really it doesn't save you much other than not needing an adapter plate since everything else is still custom. However, it is a matched engine/tranny and it's a good drivetrain.
The LS4 is the only FWD transverse Chevy engine I'm aware of. The Caddy Northstar 4.6L and the 4.0L used in the Aurora could also be used with their own transmissions. (Caddy engine, though, not Chevy)
There aren't many V8/FWD combos from GM to choose from.
what I'd Really "Like" is a gen 1 327 Chevy, inj or carbed, with a Dist, but still a gen 1 CHEVY V8. Just don't want to drop $1000 on a Adapter ! (I don't have that much in my 3800SC swap and it's all rebuilt). Want More "Low End" TORQUE than a 3.8. . I considered a 4.9 caddy, but have not heard a lot of Good about how well they "Hold Up". I Already Have a 4t65e-HD waiting. Won't consider a Northstar, too large. Looking for "reasonably priced" Options". Thanks
what I'd Really "Like" is a gen 1 327 Chevy, inj or carbed, with a Dist, but still a gen 1 CHEVY V8. Just don't want to drop $1000 on a Adapter ! (I don't have that much in my 3800SC swap and it's all rebuilt). Want More "Low End" TORQUE than a 3.8. . I considered a 4.9 caddy, but have not heard a lot of Good about how well they "Hold Up". I Already Have a 4t65e-HD waiting. Won't consider a Northstar, too large. Looking for "reasonably priced" Options". Thanks
what I'd Really "Like" is a gen 1 327 Chevy, inj or carbed, with a Dist, but still a gen 1 CHEVY V8. Just don't want to drop $1000 on a Adapter ! (I don't have that much in my 3800SC swap and it's all rebuilt). Want More "Low End" TORQUE than a 3.8. . I considered a 4.9 caddy, but have not heard a lot of Good about how well they "Hold Up". I Already Have a 4t65e-HD waiting. Won't consider a Northstar, too large. Looking for "reasonably priced" Options". Thanks
The only "reasonably" priced option for an old 327 in a Fiero, is to buy one already done, or to wait around and hope someone selling Archie's kit for dead cheap, shows up.
Or you can design your own adapter plate, starter mount, oil filter adapter, etc… and fab everything up yourself. You're not going to get a Gen 1 SBC swap done cheap otherwise.
The 60's to early 80's TH425 and TH325-4 have the BOP pattern, but it shares the dowel pin locations and the two lower bolt holes with the SBC pattern and thin adapter plates are available to mount a SBC to them for less than $50. [URL=http://www.speedwaymotors.com/Chevy-to-BOP-Transmission-Adapter-Plate,3281.html?sku=91628908&utm_medium=CSEGoogle&utm_source=CSE&utm_campaign=CSEGOOGLE&catargetid=530009170000093761&cadevice=c&gclid=CjwKEAjwp56wBRDThOSZ3vqGzmESJABjNaj9--6gbXYPGBRq5mbq l-8Xt]http://www.speedwaymotors.c...-6gbXYPGBRq5mbql-8Xt[/URL] 9re_PW0qq2Y2VzFqSktxRoCG1Tw_wcB
These are longitudinal transaxles and here is an example swap with one of them:
You can also flip the diff and put the back of the transmission facing forward to move more weight forward in the chassis, but those transmission are still pretty heavy.
what I'd Really "Like" is a gen 1 327 Chevy, inj or carbed, with a Dist, but still a gen 1 CHEVY V8. Just don't want to drop $1000 on a Adapter ! (I don't have that much in my 3800SC swap and it's all rebuilt). Want More "Low End" TORQUE than a 3.8. . I considered a 4.9 caddy, but have not heard a lot of Good about how well they "Hold Up". I Already Have a 4t65e-HD waiting. Won't consider a Northstar, too large. Looking for "reasonably priced" Options". Thanks
If you want a 327 all you need is a 327 crank. I got one from 196? Its in great shape. All you need is any sbc and the crank, just make sure it's a large journal post 1967 or 8. I can't remember the year they changed. A small journal will rotate faster though. If you want a 327 go to the chevelle and camaro boards.
yea, a 327 is a 350 with 327 Pistons and crank, that's easy enough to build. Adapting it to the 4t65e is another matter. Has anyone ever tried to convert a "Adapter" for a "Chevy to BOP" ? It seems like the hardest part of an adapter is getting the "centerline" of the engines Crank Exactly the Same as the Centerline of the Torque Converter . Anyone with experience on this ?
yea, a 327 is a 350 with 327 Pistons and crank, that's easy enough to build. Adapting it to the 4t65e is another matter. Has anyone ever tried to convert a "Adapter" for a "Chevy to BOP" ? It seems like the hardest part of an adapter is getting the "centerline" of the engines Crank Exactly the Same as the Centerline of the Torque Converter . Anyone with experience on this ?
I had thought of this as a option. But no, I've never seen it done. Just the pic above. You can make it work its gonna have to be fabed by a builder.
