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So which ones the fan switch? by shemdogg
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Report this Post05-05-2017 12:32 AM Click Here to See the Profile for shemdoggSend a Private Message to shemdoggEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
The one w 1 wire next to the tstat housing or the one south of the coil w 2 wires? Fan works when ac is on but not when temp gets to 240. Then I turn on the Ac n it cools down a wee bit. I got a new temp gauge(current one no workie) and installed at the tstat housing. Now I can see the temp. Next will be the fuel gauge

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The single wire connector by the thermostat neck is the fan switch. It has a green wire with white stripe.

There's a simple test you can do to make sure the wiring is OK. Use a paperclip or something similar to ground that wire to the engine block. The radiator fan should turn on. If the fan comes on with the A/C, and comes on when you ground that wire, then the fan switch is bad.

Also, since you're replacing the switch anyway, you may want to look into Rodney Dickman's 210°F fan switch. It lets the engine get up to proper operating temperature, but doesn't let it "almost overheat" before turning on the fan.
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Awesome u guys rock! I will check it out, maybe I can get the stock gauge working again. So the other sensor by the coil has 2 wires, one for the gauge n whats the other one do? If I ground one of those wires the gauge should peg right?

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The other wire is the temperature idiot light. With a cold engine, your gauge should sit at 100° with ignition ON but engine not running.
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I shorted the green wire and the fan came on so I have a bad temp switch. I grounded the other wires on the the coil side sensor w the ignition on and the gauge didnt move. So I have a bad temp gauge. Ill get a new fan switch and move my new gauge sensor to the coil side temp sensor

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Originally posted by shemdogg:

Fan works when ac is on but not when temp gets to 240.


 
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I shorted the green wire and the fan came on so I have a bad temp switch.


How are you determining that the coolant temperature has actually reached 240°? You can't go by the temperature gauge, even one that seems to work properly.
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Report this Post05-08-2017 12:32 PM Click Here to See the Profile for BlacktreeClick Here to visit Blacktree's HomePageSend a Private Message to BlacktreeEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Yeah, I should have mentioned that earlier. It would be a good idea to take temperature readings using something more accurate than the dash gauge. Once you've determined that the radiator fan doesn't come on when the coolant temperature reaches 240°F, using an accurate thermometer, THEN you can definitively say the fan switch is bad.

But you know what? If it were me, I'd get Rodney's fan switch anyway.

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ive let it get a bit past 240 on the new gauge then hit the ac, dont wanna blow the head gaskets. Ill get rodneys switch. Theres no thermostat in it right now. Driving on the freeway around 60 the temp barely rises, should the motor be cooling off? Ive seen some threads about water pumps taking a crap. Mine looks original

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Those running rodneys fan switch, do you guys get the higher or lower setting one?

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200-210 allows it to run within ECM parameters. I have them in 1 of mine that has slightly crushed tubes. Works great with a 1o5 stat.
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Originally posted by shemdogg:

Those running rodneys fan switch, do you guys get the higher or lower setting one?


I use Rodney's 210° on and 200° off fan switch in any Fiero I drive (along with a Stant SuperStat 45819 195º thermostat). I never liked needing to wait until the coolant reaches the surface temperature of Venus (235°) before the stock switch turns on the rad fan.

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Report this Post05-09-2017 10:58 PM Click Here to See the Profile for shemdoggSend a Private Message to shemdoggEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Looks like im getting the 210 and a tstat. Thanks fellas, im getting new shift cable ends too. Should I throw a new water pump at it for s+g?

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In my experience, the 210°F fan switch and stock 195°F thermostat are a great combination. This lets the engine get up to proper operating temperature, then keeps the coolant within a fairly narrow temperature range. Both of those things are good for your engine. The downside is that in stop-n-go traffic, your radiator fan will cycle on and off more frequently. If your radiator fan is iffy, this might hasten its demise.

As for the water pump, that's really your call. But personally, I'd wait until the new fan switch and thermostat are installed, and see what happens.

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In another thread I related my first real test of the 200-210 fan switch, yesterday. Both tubes are slightly crushed. Enough that they have caused heating problems.

With temps nearing 80° yesterday, I sat in stop and go traffic for about a mile and half. It never overheated. I left the ac off so the switch had total control of engine temperatures. I am running a 195° thermostat, too.

As Blacktree suggested, replacing the fan motor would give added protection. I had replaced mine last year due to the old one failing.
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