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Motherload of Pontiac SD4 Super Duty racing blocks, parts, 500hp complete alum engine by DustyMN
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I'm selling these parts for a friend, he has a huge collection of Pontiac Super Duty racing engines and parts

This is a rare opportunity to get some hard to find Super Duty parts!

3x steel SD4 racing engine blocks with SBC 5-bolt head pattern
1x steel SD4 racing engine block with Pontiac 4-bolt head pattern

8+ crankshafts with different strokes

30-40 different roller camshafts

Lots of forged aluminum rods and pistons

One Kansas Racing Products steel racing block with SBC head 5-bolt pattern

One complete engine
216ci
aluminum block and head
Kinsler mechanical fuel injection
Dry sump
Crank trigger
GM SBC splayed valve head
520+HP

2 Buick aluminum smallblock heads (same 5-bolt pattern as Chevy)
2 Chevy aluminum smallblock heads

There are also other miscellaneous SD4 parts

He would prefer to sell everything in one package for $35k but will sell individual items also

Please contact me with any questions
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Here's the pictures using PIP instead










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I'm having some issues posting the pictures but I will try to post the rest tonight
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I'll try sorting those links out... SUCCESS!
(am I the only one with a running SD4?)































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Did any other platform use the SD4? I just don't see many (if any) Fiero owners being willing to cough up that chunk of change for this lot. Not saying it's not worth something, just saying most Fiero owners are..."frugal"

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Dukes should have just come that way stock.

Out of curiosity, any DOHC super duty heads?
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Did any other platform use the SD4?



It is (or was) a popular option for circle track.

Kansas Racing Products doesn't seem to be around any more, so I'm not sure. They were the main aftermarket producer of SD stuff, after GM stopped making them.
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Dukes should have just come that way stock.



At the very least, the INDYs should have...

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Originally posted by DustyMN:

30-40 different roller camshafts


I know it may be a nuisance, but Brand and Part Numbers would be good.

It's likely they're not all different (he may have 6 of the same PN for example).
At least we could search for the specs then if they don't have spec sheets.

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Thanks for re-posting the pics fierosound, PIP was not working for me for some reason

There are no DOHC heads in the lot, these are all pushrod

I will try to get over there soon to get some parts pulled out of storage, sorted, and get some part numbers

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I would be interested in knowing some of the Camshaft options.

I have SD4 I am working on rebuilding and converting to EFI with a '801 head.
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I should be able to get some camshaft specs this weekend

Thanks

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This is really cool! Is it possible to get a price breakdown for per part basis, like block, head, crank, etc. I know I can't afford the whole lot, nor would I have a need for the whole, but individual parts would interest me a lot more, and others may feel the same.

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I am also interested in some dry sump parts if he has any. I have a pan right now...
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I'll check to see if he has any dry sump parts

Here's a price breakdown:

Engine blocks $800 - $1000 each

Cranks $500 - $1000 each

Camshafts $100 each

Misc rods and pistons and heads $? (will check)

KRP Racing block $1500

Complete engine $15k

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Originally posted by FieroWannaBe:

I am also interested in some dry sump parts if he has any. I have a pan right now...



He said he does have some dry sump parts and will look through them and get back to me soon

He asked if the engine is for street use or racing, he said instead of a dry sump he always recommends an external belt driven single stage pump with a vacuum pump on it, he said this setup will make more power than a dry sump system

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He asked if the engine is for street use or racing, he said instead of a dry sump he always recommends an external belt driven single stage pump with a vacuum pump on it, he said this setup will make more power than a dry sump system


It is a street engine. I have researched running an external scavange pump, however, finidng those pumps for a reasonable price has not been going well. The cost new is prohibitive. I even bought an oil oump from a Ford duratec engine to try and adapt it. However i need to figure out the flow rates of the duratec pump and SD4 pump or it could all go south.
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What do you think a reasonable price would be. I have a couple sitting on the shelf.
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Radar, KRP is still around. Call or e-mail me for the number. I have a brand new, unused, KRP Fontana block with a Chevrolet bell housing bolt pattern. Original cost is $3500. Make me an offer.

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It is (or was) a popular option for circle track.

Kansas Racing Products doesn't seem to be around any more, so I'm not sure. They were the main aftermarket producer of SD stuff, after GM stopped making them.


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More parts, info, and pics!

Camshafts:
Ultra Dyne 311/322-108 A3800
Ultra Dyne 272-108 6785
Ultra Dyne 306/311-104 195422
Crane R288 BN-2572
Ultra Dyne 302/310-106 A1057
Ultra Dyne 311-108 A1056

Cranks:

2x Pontiac Racing forged steel cranks 3" stroke

Mercruiser cast crank 3-1/4" stroke

Moldex billet steel crank 3-1/4" stroke
Straight cut cam gears

Moroso Aluminum valve covers for Buick SD4 heads with vacuum pump fittings $100/pair

Stef's SD4 oil pan and Peterson oil pump with vacuum $700

2x Buick SD4 heads with SBC bolt pattern by Chapman Racing Heads $500 each

Reher & Morrison Racing Engines SBC SD4 head with mechanical fuel injection and 2 cams $1000

Reher & Morrison SBC SD4 head with camshaft $600

2x Peterson single stage external oil pumps (no vacuum) $250 each

Hogan's fabricated manifold for Buick SD4 head with EFI bungs $300

Kinsler Buick manifold with EFI bungs $300

Innovators West Damper $300

Distributors:
Blue - mechanical billet with crank trigger $300
HEI distributor $150

RFE 7" coated flywheel SBC SD4 $400




















Any idea why PIP lets me upload 9 images, and then asks for a login?

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Radar, KRP is still around. Call or e-mail me for the number. I have a brand new, unused, KRP Fontana block with a Chevrolet bell housing bolt pattern. Original cost is $3500. Make me an offer.

Ol' Bob



Thanks Bob. I'm not gonna be calling KRP. Way too rich for my blood. I just thought they were gone, since the web page is... defunct? Nice to see that I was wrong.

I don't need anything with a Chevy bolt pattern, but I DO owe you a call. My bad. Been sidetracked. Life happens. Will call you this week.
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Originally posted by DustyMN:

Camshafts:
Ultra Dyne 311/322-108 A3800
Ultra Dyne 272-108 6785
Ultra Dyne 306/311-104 195422
Crane R288 BN-2572
Ultra Dyne 302/310-106 A1057
Ultra Dyne 311-108 A1056



New home of Ultradyne http://www.bulletcams.com/

Ultradyne specs by Archive through Wayback Machine (should save this)
http://web.archive.org/web/...c_151_4_cylinder.htm

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Cool thanks for the links

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Are any of these parts still around? Or did they sell
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Don't know if any of that stuff is still around. I have some SD4 parts...What do you need? PM me to be sure that I get the message.
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Are any of these parts still around? Or did they sell



Yes some of the parts are still available, let me know what you are looking for

Thanks,

Dusty

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Anyone have a sd4 cast iron head casting numbet 10027775
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Only have aluminum heads left
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Any of the cranks still available? Specifically the Pontiac 3.0 stroke or the Moldex. Specs, measurements or photos? the prior ones posted looked pretty rusty and therefore would need machining to make useable. Thx.
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Would you be able to find out if there are anymore parts available. Im looking for a cylinder head and a 3.25 crankshaft or a KRP rear main seal adaptor for the marine crank.
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Sure thing, you can PM or email me your number and I'll have my friend give you a call

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Have a Kinsler injection for a SD4?
If so, please email me at dukenalon@hotmail.com or text Duke at 317-450-7564
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I gave my friend your info, he is a busy guy but hopefully he will be contacting you soon; I'm not sure if he has a separate Kinsler setup for sale, or if he has one already installed on a complete engine for sale

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How realistic is it to attempt to put together an SD4? Are the parts required still relatively easy to find, or is it closer to being a lost cause??


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How realistic is it to attempt to put together an SD4? Are the parts required still relatively easy to find, or is it closer to being a lost cause??




The SD4 engine was a limited production high performance 4 cyl built back in the 1980's. Its rugged, bolts in and can be built to over 200 street-able horsepower . If you decide to build one just take into consideration the cost vs reward. SD4 parts seem to come up from time to time and I do not believe they are that hard to find.

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How realistic is it to attempt to put together an SD4? Are the parts required still relatively easy to find, or is it closer to being a lost cause??




Parts do come up from time to time, but it is not easy to find something that is fairly priced and in good condition. You can find well used rusted parts, and you can find well cared for parts. The well cared for stuff is going to be prohibitive cost wise. Better to do a 3.4 V6 swap. Also if the block you get is a 5 roller bearing style, you will have a heckuva time finding a camshaft for it that will be streetable. Most all of these cams were originally milled for race applications. Yes, will make 230+ HP, but only 7000 RPM. At street speeds, will be a dog.

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Looking for a SD Drysump pan. Please let me know if you have one.
Call/text Duke 317-450-7564
Or email dukenalon@hotmail.com
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I am the proud owner of a 1987 Fiero. I am currently looking for any sd4 parts available. I know this is an old post but do you still have anything?
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