Hillary will be the nominee. Lately, Hillary has been praising Obama's performance on several issues. It seems she is trying gain favor to avoid prosecution and gain votes. You can bet that the Clinton's are in the background reminding Obama how much they know and how bad it would be if that knowledge were to be shared. I think she avoids indictment, gets the nomination and loses the election anyway........
I think she was promised the Job and they play for keeps.
Agreed. She's dangerous. I may disagree with Sanders' platform, but I think it's possible to respect someone who is open and honest about what they want to achieve. Unless he's a great actor, he's never wavered from his belief that big state socialism is the best way forward.
Clinton will talk out of both sides of her face, and her arse, as the same time. She gleefully destroys people who disagree with her. Those who pose a real legal threat often disappear or wind up dead. None of that, of course, could ever be traced to anyone in her family or entourage. I believe she would be far worse than Obama, and that's hard to imagine.
Trump is a symptom of how dire a situation our nation is in. The Progressive Left are a cancer, consuming everything in their path and leaving nothing but death and destruction in it's wake. Trump is the chemotherapy - poison a desperate person takes hoping the poison kills the cancer before it kills him. He is a last gasp of defiance in the face of an untimely death, and like fighting cancer even if the treatment can work it may be too late.
The biggest difference between Hillary and Sanders that I see is how violent the fall will be. Will the nation go into that good night ablaze and awash in the blood of her people, or will it die from within and waste away until only memories and a few scraps of parchment remain?
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Hillarys answer to the 22 new Top Secret emails is that she didnt send them, they were sent to her. Just another attempt at an excuse. Whoever sent them to her probably assumed the Secretary of State would have government encrypted online mailbox. So in my book its still on her azz. If my computers were full of government Top Secret messages, no matter who sent them, Id be in prison. Shes untouchable...and if someone did have enough balls to indict her, Obuma would give her a free pass anyway.
Trump is a symptom of how dire a situation our nation is in. The Progressive Left are a cancer, consuming everything in their path and leaving nothing but death and destruction in it's wake. Trump is the chemotherapy - poison a desperate person takes hoping the poison kills the cancer before it kills him. He is a last gasp of defiance in the face of an untimely death, and like fighting cancer even if the treatment can work it may be too late.
As I have said before... Trump is the GOP Obama. He is exactly the opposite of the current administration. He has little in the way of substance. He knows how to play his audience (very well, I might add... better than Obama). He is not a treatment but really just a placebo. In reality, he will be no different than Obama, he will not lead this country to a better place. I know, people here won't like me saying that, but it shows how well Trump has pulled the wool over people's eyes. (The people who bash Obama supporters are falling for Trump, in the same way). Again, this is fun to watch!
It isn't over for Hilary and to think so is underestimating her abilities. She knows politics... crafty one.
Would Cruz be better? Here is his supporter... sure glad he is focused on something really, really important to our country (more than immigration, terrorism, debt, etc).....
Originally posted by dratts: He should call himself a democratic capitalist socialist. He's not anti capitalism.
I think in many ways he is. People can play games and try to come up with some sort of test saying it might determine his is 70% anti capitalism, but IMO many people cant even identify capitalism.
People are angry at our government.... they want change and here you have a slick billionaire who is telling people to be angry, to demand change, to not be politically correct, call people out, sue, fight back.... all the things Trump is saying. But, if you lift his hair (look under the mask), you will see he has no experience or plan to actually BE President. He is feeding off anger and he loves the attention (and that really the type of person he is... lots of show). People are falling for it, thinking he is "the one". Congress will not bow down before him, and in-fact, they will fight him just as hard as they did Obama, because their egos are just as big as Trump's.
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That makes 2 of us. I commented I didnt think it was fun to watch, to which you had a lot of responses. One of those sparked a question from me for clarification, we are getting closer to that a little at a time.
That makes 2 of us. I commented I didnt think it was fun to watch, to which you had a lot of responses. One of those sparked a question from me for clarification, we are getting closer to that a little at a time.
What "will not change"?
That question should get to it.
Politicians and the process will not change. To think that electing Trump will somehow "fix" things is just more "hope and change"
It is enjoyable to watch people... as they really think they have the answer this time (Trump)
To think that electing Trump will somehow "fix" things is just more "hope and change"
I guess either way the point should be to elect the person you believe will be more beneficial than detrimental, to the causes you personally see as important. What you hope for and what change you want, and why and how matters of course. Where as with Obama, I didnt consider skin color important, or a qualification.
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Originally posted by jaskispyder: Politicians and the process will not change.
I do agree it is unlikley that we turn this train around, but continuing to try is the only real civil recourse.
I'm not a Trump fan either. I think many times it ends up we have to vote for the one we think will do the least damage.
As I have said before... Trump is the GOP Obama. He is exactly the opposite of the current administration. He has little in the way of substance. He knows how to play his audience (very well, I might add... better than Obama). He is not a treatment but really just a placebo. In reality, he will be no different than Obama, he will not lead this country to a better place. I know, people here won't like me saying that, but it shows how well Trump has pulled the wool over people's eyes. (The people who bash Obama supporters are falling for Trump, in the same way). Again, this is fun to watch!
It isn't over for Hilary and to think so is underestimating her abilities. She knows politics... crafty one.
The ONLY thing worse than Obuma is Hillary. There 2 peas of the pod, only shes more rotten. The good thing Trump has is he says what he means, and dont care what anyone says about it. Hes not afraid to pizz anyone off and shoots from the hip. Obuma and Hillary are natural born liars in EVERYTHING they do or say. Most people (middle class) are much worse off now than in 2008...with no brighter outlook now. The only ones benefiting from Obuma is the rich that have enough they dont care, and the poor that he gives anything to they want. The official unemployment numbers show hes done wonders, but the fact is its higher now than it was when he got in. His numbers dont include all the people NOW getting laid off, ones that unemplyment ran out on, ones that said f...c it, and ones that havent gotten a job yet to be able to get unemployment. Just Walmart and Macys have 15,000 being let go in the next month or two. Your living in Jurassic Park if you think hes done anything good for the US. Hillary will just be a continuation of his crap. Expect even more allies to tell us to go to hell if she does get in. Also our military wont be in good enough shape to fight anyone bigger than Cuba. Im surprised Trump hasnt mentioned her looks. Shes as ugly as they come and Chelsea isnt much better. She should be in ISIS so her face and head are covered in public.
SHEESH, how much illegal stuff do you have to do before people stop supporting you.....? Let see what happens in NH and SC....Shes ranking right up there with O.J.
SHEESH, how much illegal stuff do you have to do before people stop supporting you.....? Let see what happens in NH and SC....Shes ranking right up there with O.J.
If you are an Oregon Rancher... apparently you can do as much as you want (insert rim shot)...
In that case, vote for Bernie.... he and Congress will never settle on anything. LOL!
I have a feeling that a lot of people will sit this election out.
I don't think so, not in the primary season anyway. Older voters (except the few staunchest of old socialists) will be out in droves for H. Clinton and the younger socialists will be out working and voting for Bernie Sanders.
I think the Iowa results bode very well for Sanders and Clinton knows it. She was expecting to do very well there, the Iowa tie is as good as a win for Sanders, New Hampshire is Bernie's to lose, and unless he makes some huge misstep, will win it.
GOP? I just don't know. A lot of the electorate has been running on the emotionally charged media releases, fueled by current events, especially regarding the MidEast. If ISIS decides to keep a low profile, and the Syrian migrant situation calms down considerably, Trump could be in real trouble.
I don't think anyone really thinks any of the top 3-4 candidates on either side are independent anymore, assuming any ever did really believe that.
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If Sanders continues to bring in serious numbers like he did in Iowa he could be tempted to make a third party run. Dems think Hillary is their best chance to retain the White House so she will be the nominee if the race is close. She might be the Dem nominee even if Sanders beats her in the primaries. They are not above changing the rules to achieve the ends. I hope that happens and Bernie feels slighted enough to run. It will hand the election to whoever the Rep turns out to be.
Attorney General Loretta Lynch is planning to announce Friday that she will accept whatever recommendations the FBI hands down in its investigation into Hillary Clinton’s private State Department email server
Translation: She's so sure the FBI Director will not allow A former First Lady of a popular Former POTUS to be the first to be indicted or convicted, that she can recuse herself.
The meeting with Bill suggests something is about to happen. The press release by Lynch, virtually, recusing herself leads to believe the coming FBI recommendation is going to be... "nothing"
Lynch is positioning herself to avoid any claim that the meeting with Bill influenced her discussion to not indict or prosecute Hillary Clinton.
so, I'm uncovering my crystal ball, and here is what I see...
The DEM ticket will be Clinton and Miss Obama, as v.p.
if they win.. that is when Obama's d.o.j. will pounce..
Can I play with madness? The prophet stared at his crystal ball Can I play with madness? There's no vision there at all Can I play with madness? The prophet looked at me and laughed at me (ha ha) He said: Can I play with madness? He said you're blind, too blind to see
Said you're too blind to see
I screamed aloud to the old man I said don't lie, don't say you don't know I say you'll pay for this mischief In this world or the next Oh and then he fixed me with a freezing glance And the hell fires raged in his eyes He said you wanna know the truth son? Lord, I'll tell you the truth Your soul's gonna burn in a lake of fire
Gunna be brutally honest here. I wouldn't be devastated if a Democrat won the election, but I would be devastated if Hillary won. Pick the worst Democrat you can find (the most liberal) and I'll learn to accept it.
But allowing Hillary to run with everything she has done, the manner in which she's conducted herself, etc... is so disappointing to me... I just don't even know what to say. It's upsetting to me that people would actually vote for someone whom they know is as corrupt as she is.
Gunna be brutally honest here. I wouldn't be devastated if a Democrat won the election, but I would be devastated if Hillary won. Pick the worst Democrat you can find (the most liberal) and I'll learn to accept it.
But allowing Hillary to run with everything she has done, the manner in which she's conducted herself, etc... is so disappointing to me... I just don't even know what to say. It's upsetting to me that people would actually vote for someone whom they know is as corrupt as she is.
