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The Worst Cars Of The 1980’s by spark1
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Report this Post05-30-2017 12:43 AM Click Here to See the Profile for spark1Send a Private Message to spark1Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Another hit piece on the Fiero:



 
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What Made It So Awful: The Fiero was Pontiac’s attempt at creating an innovative sports car. This car was so popular despite its habit of bursting into flames. The word ‘Fiero’ means ‘fierce’ in Spanish, which is a good description of the criticism that this little sports car received. Apparently, it was one of the safest cars ever produced. If you liked fireballs it was a real blast.


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It is all about clicks, hits..
This is why they do blogs like this.. they know they will get tons of views.. To them it's all about the money..
there was many turds in the 80's..
I'd plant the Fiero in the same group as the iron duke Camaro and the 4 banger mustang(non SVO) They look the part but.. The old if it don't go, chrome it comes to mind..
It is to bad that because of the vette. and g.m. telling buick to kill the GN Buick didn't team up with Pontiac and give them the last g.n. engings and them put them in the 88 Fiero instead of the 89 t/a..
That have been a total middle finger o the g.m. brass and the vette.
The Fiero was it's own undoing, That and Pontiac..
I remember walking by a dealer daily doing my paper route as I was saving for my first car.. and a 87-88 Fiero gt was 18k and a Firebird formula was 19k-22k
If I was a new car buyer.. it be hard to pick the Fiero over the fire chicken..
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Personally IDGAF about what people say about Fieros. If people want to be stupid, you can't really help it.
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Apparently, it was one of the safest cars ever produced.

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The continued dumbing down to accommodate it's readers. By "it" I mean everything.

The Wife's coworker commented on the GT last week. Talked about how dangerous the fires were and all. After the Wife took it to work last week, her coworkers perceptions slightly changed.
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Typical garbage. If that is the worst than they need to look at some other cars.

What makes the Fiero a hard sell, even today, is it only has two seats.
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Originally posted by RotrexFiero:

Typical garbage. If that is the worst than they need to look at some other cars.

What makes the Fiero a hard sell, even today, is it only has two seats.


Um it is a tad more than that..
I love mine but lets get real here..
A clean one with some balls added, is c4 money.. buy a fiero or a vette, survey says..
2) the seating, same reason people liked the mustang over the 3-4th gen f bodies, the seats put you very low in the car../road..
yes I get it, and the reasoning, but not every buyer is looking to be Mario.. My wife is 5' tall and can barely see over the dash , She hate it..with a passion.. and will not drive it.. As she can't see the tail or nose to know where the en of the car is..
3) The pedal placement is at an angle to the wheel.. the vette also has this and it takes some getting used to..

I love mine, but to make it handle and move like a lame powered 245hp tpi c4 vette will cost more than if I just buy the clean 86-89 c4 vette..
That is a hard sell. 7-9k+ for s 3800s/c swapped Fiero or a clean c4(4-7k) that will out handle it, out brake it, and won't take much to out run and gap it..

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We've been on a number of weekend jaunts in the Fiero and found it perfect for such trips.

However, my wife always wanted C4 or C5 so not too long ago I found a couple on Craigslist for her to try out.

After driving both she said the Fiero is way better for what we want. More leg room, more trunk space ( relative to a Vette) better gas mileage and peppy enough for fun on the back roads.

But it's a personal choice thing so YMMV.

BTW, there's plenty of headroom so some simple seat blocks might be enough to satisfy a short driver.
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Originally posted by RayOtton:

We've been on a number of weekend jaunts in the Fiero and found it perfect for such trips.

However, my wife always wanted C4 or C5 so not too long ago I found a couple on Craigslist for her to try out.

After driving both she said the Fiero is way better for what we want. More leg room, more trunk space ( relative to a Vette) better gas mileage and peppy enough for fun on the back roads.

But it's a personal choice thing so YMMV.

BTW, there's plenty of headroom so some simple seat blocks might be enough to satisfy a short driver.


Seat blocks might work, if I wasn't 6'5"
I like my Fiero.. but my post was a reply to why they are a hard sell even today, as it's not that it is a 2 seater..
It is a old car and with that comes the fact that most are now play things.. Not daily drivers for the most part..
From a collector car/ hobby car interest. They are a hard sell as This market wants speed and handling.. And what they can get for a price point..
Not many are looking at a 2 seater and thinking that be fun to putt around in to shows or a local cruise.. They want to hit a mountain road with some apexes .
I'd love to swap a 3800 s/c and stick in mine.. then add brakes, and springs shocks, but I'm looking at 10k , or buy one done already that is clean for 7-10k..
Or buy a gold chain and unbutton my shirt a few buttons.. . Spending the money when my wife will not drive the car, and doesn't really like being in the pass seat either. makes spending that cash a hard sell.. She rather I got a raptor . but that is another story..
If the c4 vettes were not so cheap.. The Fieros would be better off.. but that is not the case..
I have a friend that bought a unloved 84 vette, clean low miles 3.5k, a 6.2 ls with stick take out 3.5k a holley hp efi to make it work 3k.. and has 450+ hp rocket..
Making the dumping 10k into my 2 seater a hard sell.
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Originally posted by spark1:

Another hit piece on the Fiero:




Opinions are like assholes. Everyone has one and the majority of them stink.

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Originally posted by spark1:

http://thingsautos.com/the-...cars-of-the-1980s/4/


I feel dumber having just now read most of the pages in that list. A lot of them sound like "this car was bad, because it was really bad!". No substance. Lots of dumb little mistakes. AMC does not stand for American Motor Company, for example. That Cadillac engine pictured is not a V-8-6-4. That Firebird pictured is not a Camaro. Etc, etc, etc. Does anyone fact-check anymore?

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Originally posted by css9450:


I feel dumber having just now read most of the pages in that list. A lot of them sound like "this car was bad, because it was really bad!". No substance. Lots of dumb little mistakes. AMC does not stand for American Motor Company, for example. That Cadillac engine pictured is not a V-8-6-4. That Firebird pictured is not a Camaro. Etc, etc, etc. Does anyone fact-check anymore?


The "article" wasn't about *facts*

It isn't "fact checked" because there was no intention of any of it being factual.

It's about internet *clicks*....as in "click bait"....as in generating the most money for the least effort.


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Keep in mind that the Fiero was built as a "commuter" car. I bought my 87 GT new and it still gets looks. When I bought my 2017 Tucson (a daily driver), I drove the 87 to the dealers and all the sales staff were looking at it and commenting how nice it looked. The car does have 157,000 miles on it and it hasn't been abused since I've had it. It still drives nice but it seems to have shrunk as it is hard to get in and out of today. When the Fieros were "new" and abused they didn't last.
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Originally posted by css9450:


I feel dumber having just now read most of the pages in that list. A lot of them sound like "this car was bad, because it was really bad!". No substance. Lots of dumb little mistakes. AMC does not stand for American Motor Company, for example. That Cadillac engine pictured is not a V-8-6-4. That Firebird pictured is not a Camaro. Etc, etc, etc. Does anyone fact-check anymore?


So what does AMC stand for?
last time I checked it always stood for American Motors Corporation (AMC)


The Camaro is there, they show both iron duke f body's.

the caddy,, they show the 4100 v8 turd.. I'd take the 8-6-4 v8 over the 4100 that need a g.m. happy meal every 15k to keep head gaskets In it

But, I'll bet the writer wasn't even born when these cars were around so I doubt he/she know what a caddy 8-6-4 v8 looks like

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Originally posted by E.Furgal:

So what does AMC stand for?
last time I checked it always stood for American Motors Corporation (AMC)



Are you nitpicking my nitpicks?

Indeed, AMC is American Motors Corporation. It is not what they said it is in the article.

 
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"AMC, the American Motor Company ended up selling rebadged Renaults."


A minor quibble, perhaps, but if they are going to go to the trouble to spell the whole name they should try to get it right.

Weird they would use the Firebird to lead off the Camaro article but not mention it. Yes, they show the Camaro too but a better article would mention both cars if they are showing pics of both.

I wonder what the odds are that that Camaro has a V6? Most (or all) Duke Camaros I remember seeing had dog-dish hubcaps but there were probably exceptions.

You are most certainly right, though; the article was probably written by someone too young to remember them firsthand.

Just click fodder, nothing to see here.

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