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Dennis LaGrua
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DEC 09, 10:49 PM
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I agree with some of the points that Hyperv6 has made but Turbo 60* V6 engines have been built, ran well and survived. The point that he makes is that the engines must be built to take boost and the crank strength and head could be an issue. Years back a drag racer by the name of Ron Meyers from Western PA ran 12's in the 1/4 mile with a built turbocharged 3.1L engine and a small shot of Nitrous. The engine had a stock crank ran high boost and held together. His engine control was an aftermarket Haltech ECM. He used a Getrag but clutch life was short. His car was a Burgundy red 1987 Fiero GT. After a couple of years of racing Ron packed up moved to the West coast and sold the car. Its probably still out there but not being raced. ------------------ " THE BLACK PARALYZER" -87GT 3800SC Series III engine, custom ZZP /Frozen Boost Intercooler setup, 3.4" Pulley, Northstar TB, LS1 MAF, 3" Spintech/Hedman Exhaust, P-log Manifold, Autolite 104's, MSD wires, Custom CAI, 4T65eHD w. custom axles, Champion Radiator, S10 Brake Booster, HP Tuners VCM Suite. "THE COLUSSUS" 87GT - ALL OUT 3.4L Turbocharged engine, Garrett Hybrid Turbo, MSD ign., modified TH125H " ON THE LOOSE WITHOUT THE JUICE "
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Honest Don
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DEC 09, 10:59 PM
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I’d do a single over twins. It’s just way easier from a plumbing and real estate perspective.
That being said, don’t let the old guys scare you off because they couldn’t make it work. My 2.8 is almost completely stock, including headgaskets, and it has seen as much as 16psi. I imagine a 3.1 wouldn’t be terribly different.[This message has been edited by Honest Don (edited 12-09-2021).]
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Valkrie9
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DEC 09, 11:02 PM
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Valkrie9
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DEC 09, 11:13 PM
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hyperv6
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DEC 11, 08:20 AM
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quote | Originally posted by Dennis LaGrua:
I agree with some of the points that Hyperv6 has made but Turbo 60* V6 engines have been built, ran well and survived. The point that he makes is that the engines must be built to take boost and the crank strength and head could be an issue. Years back a drag racer by the name of Ron Meyers from Western PA ran 12's in the 1/4 mile with a built turbocharged 3.1L engine and a small shot of Nitrous. The engine had a stock crank ran high boost and held together. His engine control was an aftermarket Haltech ECM. He used a Getrag but clutch life was short. His car was a Burgundy red 1987 Fiero GT. After a couple of years of racing Ron packed up moved to the West coast and sold the car. Its probably still out there but not being raced.
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The key point Dennis is built. You are not just going to bolt on turbo chargers to end engine with cast pistons and no o rings and get good results.
It takes Rod,pistons, crank and o rings on the heads. Even intakes can be an issue if you produce any boost that makes a difference.
Then you need to get the fuel matched to the boost and that is where it takes a good tuner.
Finally it take a good measure of heat management . You will kill the electronics fast with out it and could do other damage.
I never said it could not be done but to bolt on a turbo from a junkyard and get good results is just not a simple thing to do.
Like I have said I have seen over the years a hood number of Fiero’s get Turbos and it takes a good bit of money to get it right. Even then without good knowledge many never see the road again.
Turbocharging is not for the novice.
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hyperv6
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DEC 11, 08:25 AM
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There is a guy out there with a TT LS V8 turbo in a Fiero. He really knew what he was doing and did a very good job. It was not cheap or easy but I believe he was making around 700 HP.
His entire trunk was an intercooler.
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hyperv6
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DEC 11, 08:26 AM
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There is a guy out there with a TT LS V8 turbo in a Fiero. He really knew what he was doing and did a very good job. It was not cheap or easy but I believe he was making around 700 HP.
His entire trunk was an intercooler.
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hyperv6
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DEC 11, 08:28 AM
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There is a guy out there with a TT LS V8 turbo in a Fiero. He really knew what he was doing and did a very good job. It was not cheap or easy but I believe he was making around 700 HP.
His entire trunk was an intercooler.
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hyperv6
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DEC 11, 08:35 AM
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[This message has been edited by hyperv6 (edited 12-11-2021).]
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hyperv6
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DEC 11, 08:37 AM
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Sorry this one dynoed ay 850 hp. Note too the rest of the car was built to take advantage of the power. Making power is one thing but putting it to the ground is a whole other issue. Most fail to follow through.
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