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Fiero Vampire
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FEB 28, 02:06 PM
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Found this Fiero-Fiasco Article while searching the web, didn't find it listed anywhere on the site, so figured I'd post a link here.
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hyperv6
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FEB 28, 03:01 PM
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It is stories like this we really need to get the entire story out on what happened and why in full disclosure and detail.
If the full truth is never documented we will have to live with the half truths and rumors forever.
Fred, Ron we need to get this put together even if it is just on the web.
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2.5
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FEB 28, 03:14 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by hyperv6:
It is stories like this we really need to get the entire story out on what happened and why in full disclosure and detail.
If the full truth is never documented we will have to live with the half truths and rumors forever.
Fred, Ron we need to get this put together even if it is just on the web. |
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Could speak it at the 35th Anniversary show 
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Curtisk1060
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MAR 01, 10:09 PM
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Seemed like a fairly straight forward comment as to how many people felt towards the Fiero in general, love my 88GT but the earlier models, not so much...
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FIERO JOHN-WI
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MAR 03, 03:23 PM
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I agree Hyper it needs to be told, if IL club can make the Enthusists Guide for Fiero people (past present & Future) to identify a Fiero model and all its options, then it should be easy to make a "correct" book on the history of the Fiero. (I think the IL club should start this endever) they would do a fine job. I think their club seams to take the bull by the horns or should I say wings of the horse (lol) and then you would see many people start to contribute. But you need that person to start it and they would. I HOPE
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hyperv6
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MAR 03, 06:34 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by FIERO JOHN-WI:
I agree Hyper it needs to be told, if IL club can make the Enthusists Guide for Fiero people (past present & Future) to identify a Fiero model and all its options, then it should be easy to make a "correct" book on the history of the Fiero. (I think the IL club should start this endever) they would do a fine job. I think their club seams to take the bull by the horns or should I say wings of the horse (lol) and then you would see many people start to contribute. But you need that person to start it and they would. I HOPE |
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Fred and I have discussed it. I figure with a few of us contributing we could come up with a complete and clear telling of the car with all the good and bad things that went on. It is a story many who worked at GM do not want to touch even after they retire due to the much infighting.
We need to detail how and where the many details about the car not only from a Pontiac perspective but also from others inside GM. Dave McClellan of the Corvette team pointed out the V6 Mid engine transverse car really originated with the GM tech center engineers and was rejected by the Corvette team. They held onto it and offered it to Hulki when he was looking for a way to lower the cowl of the Fiero. He took their preliminary work and made it his own.
This is a very involved story that even today we are still learning many details that few would speak about.
I would be willing to do much of the writing but I would still need help on info and with the proof reading to make sure the details are correct.
We need to address GM's and Pontiac's mistakes as well as Chevy's influence and the Unions dealings in all of this. Too often the Fiero people tend to ignore the fact Pontiac took some major risks and made some major mistakes to get the car build and in the end it caught up with them.
The risk they took to build the car at the Pontiac plant with no other cars for a couple years let them over build the car and flooded the market. They were banking on the GM 80 program to come to the plant and when it died the Fiero died with it. That was all the Corvette people needed to help get the program shut down.
While contributions to the topic are welcomed I still would like to keep this to 3-4 people that really know the story and to keep it simple and on point. Even if it is just to be posted on a web site some where or a wiki that would be fine. The story just needs to be told accurately for once and so it is not lost.[This message has been edited by hyperv6 (edited 03-03-2017).]
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2.5
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MAR 06, 08:54 AM
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2.5
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MAR 06, 04:59 PM
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I'd also love to learn how Saturn is related.
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hyperv6
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MAR 06, 09:44 PM
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Yes this was the fwd f body replacement. They also were looking at AWD but only with a V6.
Much of the body is composit.
The plan was to share the Fiero plant to fill out capacity.
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lorennerol
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MAR 06, 11:05 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by 2.5:
I'd also love to learn how Saturn is related.
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My garage holds two fantastic two-seat sports cars built by GM. The Fiero lasted 4.5 years. The Saturn Sky lasted three. Both died, in part (but not entirely), due to corner cutting that caused owner headaches. In a world where Mazda has been pumping out and selling Miatas for two decades, the sales issues both had weren't, in my opinion, inevitable.
Oh, and GM scrapped the hydro-forming dies for the Sky hood. Not entirely dissimilar to them selling the GT tail light molds (which were subsequently lost).
GM....what could have been with these cars. A Sky with an upgraded interior and a next-gen Ecotec...
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