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Fino
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DEC 24, 10:30 AM
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Valkrie9
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DEC 24, 11:34 PM
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| '64 Pontiac Banshee, a Fiero inside, a blown VVT NorthStar, all the good stuff, a complex tribute to the brand, Pontiac.
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Fiero Chassis + Alloy Skin + Northstar + Flat Crank n Cams + Turbos + AWD +++
Merry Christmas !
edit- 1:55am est Dec 25 21
Corvettereport/1970-xp-882-...-corvette-prototype/
So, you say you wished upon a star for the '69 Corvette, a rebodied Fiero appearing in your garage this morning, all polished aluminum.
( That reminds me... )
edit- 2:40am est Dec 25 21
Jim Cowden's Aluminum GT40 What makes the heart beat,
if it fails to do so, see your physician immediately for an injection of motor oil, an antidote for a bland life without crankshafts.
Merry Christmas !
Ya Animal !
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IMSA GT
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DEC 25, 12:56 AM
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Damn, too bad this is a Fiero forum, not a Corvette forum. [This message has been edited by IMSA GT (edited 12-26-2021).]
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Valkrie9
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DEC 25, 08:06 AM
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This is the style a custom Fiero would look swell in, a fresh suit, a new cut, updated interior and power, lots of power.
I even like the colour, silver flake with a copper pearl and clearcoat.
Yeah.
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Replication, a tribute to the artists, a fine compliment if done with the highest regard to quality, fit and finish.
Drawn and sculpted by the eyes and hands of Bill Mitchell, that dreamer, designer, bravo !
Of all the beautifully curved Corvette prototypes
done since I admired them in the early sixties, this is the one most likely to be built, based on a Fiero chassis.
The stamped and welded beginnings of a tub to carry the custom front and rear sheetmetal, monocoque crush zones, suspension and engine/transaxle crossmembers.
In fact, if some enterprising do it all kind of builder was properly motivated, He might find a small niche market to sell a few, as many as ten.
lol !
Reynolds Corvette Concept Car.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urXLqaW5CuQ
https://www.motortrend.com/...et-corvette-history/
http://www.deansgarage.com/...corvette-artwork650/
https://www.billmitchellbook.com/store-3
https://www.youtube.com/res...lding+a+custom+Fiero
Make a wish come true, begin your very own Reynolds Fiero tribute today !
Merry Christmas everyone !
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hyperv6
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DEC 25, 11:13 AM
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This one was built on a 914 Porsche.
https://www.hemmings.com/st...73-xp-897-gt-concept
The truth is if you go back the Corvette prototypes were built as from, rear, transverse, longitudinal, reverse rotation, rotory, V6, twin V6, composite build and more.
I have drawings from the 70’s of the Corvette with a space frame and one with a rotory and one a transverse 454.
The transaxle was always the weak link.
The truth be told the idea of the Fiero was originally from the tech center as a V6 Corvette. Chevy turned it down. Hulki in search of a way to lower the cowl on the P car used the idea rejected by Chevy for the Fiero to get the low nose he wanted. This was documented in the Book Inside the Corvette.
GM never throws away ideas they are often retained and picked up by other divisions.
The 63 Buick Riviera was originally a Cadillac. Incept that was rejected. It became the Silver Artrow concept for Buick and then the Riviera.
Same for the 1990 Fiero GT styling. It was canceled but reused to style the 4th Gen F body. Even the dash was reused.
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cvxjet
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DEC 25, 11:54 AM
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The Aerovette was a concept that evolved over time during the late 60s and thru the early 70s. It had a transverse mid-engine and Bill-fold doors. I have actually wondered why, with all of the Fiero kitcars, has nobody ever done one for the Aerovette...? This is what the C8 should have looked like (Instead of it's Toyonda styling(Yech!)
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Valkrie9
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DEC 25, 12:27 PM
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Begin your panel beating experience here !
Give it a try for a week of labor, rolling and swinging a rubber mallet, to make sheet metal art.
Yes, an aluminum hulled Fiero a thing of beauty, years to build.
Wray Schelin's ProShaper Workshop
https://www.youtube.com/c/proshaper/videos
Lessons - Courses in Metal. wow ![This message has been edited by Valkrie9 (edited 12-26-2021).]
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Fino
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DEC 25, 02:24 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by IMSA GT:
Damn, too bad this is a Fiero forum, not a Corvette forum. |
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I just wanted members to see that Chevy Corvette first COPIED the Pontiac Fiero for their mid-engine car (transverse).
The photo you are looking at was from the 2003 Detroit Autorama that my car was in. When the public was not in the building. I was talking to the people from GM display and they knew that I worked for GM Experimental Engineering. They opened the deck lid to show me the mid-engine car (not for the public to see). If you look at the guy next to me his face is mad. My brother took the photo not understanding that was against the rules of GM and I still worked there for Cadillac and could be fired if that photo got out to the public. I have never shown this photo to the public before.
My intentions were not to turn it into a Corvette post. (Let’s leave Ferrari out of this also.)
That deck lid was never open during the show.[This message has been edited by Fino (edited 12-25-2021).]
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cvxjet
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DEC 25, 05:01 PM
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The car you were photographed with was the CERV III.
For those who don't know, it was a concept/research vehicle. I made a model of it back in the late 80s. It was (Basically) the beginning of "Life after box design" at GM. This (Styling)design led to the Pontiac Banshee concept car which was the lead-in to the 1993 4th gen Firebird (With CURVES).....
The chassis of the CERV III had that transverse V8 engine plus All-wheel drive and 4-wheel steering..
As far as the Vette vs the Fiero; I never saw where the Fiero would rob Vette sales if it was kept at the lower performance teer; You have HIGH performance cars (Vette, Ferrari, Lambo) and you have the lower-level sports cars (300ZX, RX7, GTV)....
The difference in performance is obvious; High perf; 0-60 = 4-5 seconds, 1/4 = 12-13 seconds....the sports cars ; 0-60 = 7-8 seconds, 1/4 = 15-16 seconds....
(Yes, I know there were versions of lower-teer cars that approached upper teer performance (300ZX Turbo, RX-7 Turbo)
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Fino
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DEC 26, 07:20 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by cvxjet:
The car you were photographed with was the CERV III.
For those who don't know, it was a concept/research vehicle. I made a model of it back in the late 80s. It was (Basically) the beginning of "Life after box design" at GM. This (Styling)design led to the Pontiac Banshee concept car which was the lead-in to the 1993 4th gen Firebird (With CURVES).....
The chassis of the CERV III had that transverse V8 engine plus All-wheel drive and 4-wheel steering..
As far as the Vette vs the Fiero; I never saw where the Fiero would rob Vette sales if it was kept at the lower performance teer; You have HIGH performance cars (Vette, Ferrari, Lambo) and you have the lower-level sports cars (300ZX, RX7, GTV)....
The difference in performance is obvious; High perf; 0-60 = 4-5 seconds, 1/4 = 12-13 seconds....the sports cars ; 0-60 = 7-8 seconds, 1/4 = 15-16 seconds....
(Yes, I know there were versions of lower-teer cars that approached upper teer performance (300ZX Turbo, RX-7 Turbo) |
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Sorry for the post. You are right I am stupid for thinking that I would have anything of value to add to the Fiero community. It shows in my car.
This is why I don't go to any Fiero shows like I use to do.
Admin. Go ahead and remove this post.
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