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ohioindy
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MAR 03, 08:40 AM
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For the past decade or so I've had some life/death experiences that has put my Indy Fieros on the back shelf.
Both of them have not been started in 8 plus years. I have spent the past year getting both of them road ready.
Both of them needed new fuel systems. The gas today does not like sitting for years at a time.
Does anyone run ethanol free gas? We have a station here that has E90, which I use on my outdoor power equipment, and never have an issue with fuel system being gummed up.
By the way...here is my retirement life.
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Larryinkc
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MAR 03, 11:10 AM
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I use ethanol free gas in all my cars and lawn equipment, never have any problems with their fuel systems.
Sometimes when traveling I have not been able to find ethanol free gas and my mileage goes down a bit if I have to use ethanol gas.
I like alcohol in a glass, can or bottle, not in a gas tank
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theogre
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MAR 03, 11:52 AM
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E85 E90 is near all Ethanol.
Many small engines have problems w/ just E10 or "up to 10%" Ethanol in Gas.
Ethanol pulls Water right out of Air and cause many problems because Ethanol will drop out of solution w/ gas.
Ethanol is a Solvent that "eats" many parts not made for it.
Running E15 to E90 causes Timing and other problems for non "Flex Fuel" vehicles.
While in some places you can get non ethanol gas for Off Road Use... ("Marine" Gas for Boats and more is often Dyed and use for street is Illegal because doesn't include Road Taxes etc.)
No gas can sit for Months let alone for Years and been True for Decades.
Stabill etc helps some to store between seasons but doesn't make gas happy after 6 months.
Most Newer EVAP systems for vehicles completely close when car is shut down to keep fumes in and water out.
Older EVAP for Fiero and others across brands do not do this and while tries to keep fumes in, water can get thru the EVAP "Can" pull by any alcohol.
Worse is Vented systems that most lawnmowers etc have or crap gas "cans" that won't seal. These allow water in and fumes out. Gas has light and heavy parts and light parts "leak" faster thru any unsealed systems/containers.------------------
Dr. Ian Malcolm: Yeah, but your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn't stop to think if they should.
(Jurassic Park)
The Ogre's Fiero Cave
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2.5
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MAR 03, 12:01 PM
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I always recommend ethanol free gas.
E90 by name would be worse than E85 which is worse than E10 (standard). Like Ogre said.
When I park mine for winter (to keep them out of road salt) I always use the local 91 octane ethanol free gas near me from Quik Trip. I don't have 87 octane ethanol free near me. (But also something to note, as gas sits and degrades its octane content lowers.)
I use ethanol free when it is available. All the old rubber parts in Fieros fuel systems hate ethanol as does aluminum.
In small engines I always use ethanol free.
Also recommend Seafoam additive as a stabilizer and all around conditioner / cleaner.[This message has been edited by 2.5 (edited 03-03-2022).]
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pmbrunelle
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MAR 03, 12:50 PM
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2.5
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MAR 03, 01:42 PM
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Ah yes. They do call the 91 octane ethanol free gas at my Quik Trip recreational gasoline.
Everything said here does apply.
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ohioindy
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MAR 03, 02:16 PM
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Correct
I just looked at it, the station has a sign that says E90 but the pump says REC90
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2.5
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MAR 03, 03:40 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by ohioindy:
Correct
I just looked at it, the station has a sign that says E90 but the pump says REC90 |
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Wow... that station needs to get it straight. They are near polar opposites.
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Skybax
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MAR 03, 06:06 PM
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Yes I run REC FUEL in my hobby cars (ethanol-free recreational fuel). While Rec Fuel is much more stable for longer periods of time and doesn't damage the fuel system like modern ethanol fuels do via breakdown of seals, tarnish, and water accumulation contributing to rust, it is still recommended to use a fuel stabilizer with Rec Fuel if you plan on storing it for the winter or longer. The trick in using the stabilizer properly before storage is, you add the stabilizer first at the gas station before you fill up with Rec Fuel, and since its only a few ounces it gets washed down the filler tube and mixed in thoroughly as you're filling, and its distributed throughout the entire fuel system while driving back home. (you want a full tank for storage, less space, less condensation)
Here is a website that lists the gas stations that sell Rec Fuel (there are a handful in my metro area)... https://www.pure-gas.org/[This message has been edited by Skybax (edited 03-03-2022).]
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Trinten
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MAR 03, 10:23 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by theogre:
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While in some places you can get non ethanol gas for Off Road Use... ("Marine" Gas for Boats and more is often Dyed and use for street is Illegal because doesn't include Road Taxes etc.)
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Hi Ogre, that might not be true in every state. North Carolina has a (small) chain of gas stations and other resources to find stations that offer non-ethanol gas, and is taxed (and usually sold at a premium) and is allowed to be use on roads in standard equipment (at least as recently as end of last year, haven't checked to see if any new laws around it kicked in this year, but the same places are selling it and no changes in signage). Typically I can only find it in 91 or 93 octane (and yes, that premium price I mentioned is above the stations normal 91/93 octane gas).
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I should have added this last night but didn't think of it. To Ogre's point, yes if it's Dyed gas, it's restricted use. Thankfully the places where I can get Ethanol free gas in N.C, it is not dyed.[This message has been edited by Trinten (edited 03-04-2022).]
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