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Finally some info that is up to date and accurate on the Fiero (Page 1/1) |
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hyperv6
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FEB 20, 03:46 PM
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https://www.yahoo.com/autos...ntiac-170100088.html
Here is a story that include info on the 1990 and the Porsche Engineering tuning the Suspension.
Also that the volume of the car was good but the plant capacity was only 20%.
I wish it would have dived deeper but at least Gary and John are speaking up and saying more on the record.
I have been pushing this on Hagerty and Gary was posting so maybe that got them to move.
We still need a book with the whole story not based on just what GM wants out.
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Wichita
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FEB 20, 04:06 PM
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Weirdly, Mary Barra started out her career in GM as a Senior Engineer on the Fiero working on reducing all the defects in 1985. She even drove one to work for several years.
So it makes you wonder if she has a special heart for the Fiero or it was just a passing phase and dismissed as a forgettable old boyfriend.
I want to ask her about her experiences and thoughts on the Fiero. It would be an interesting interview.
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hyperv6
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FEB 20, 05:43 PM
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quote | Originally posted by Wichita:
Weirdly, Mary Barra started out her career in GM as a Senior Engineer on the Fiero working on reducing all the defects in 1985. She even drove one to work for several years.
So it makes you wonder if she has a special heart for the Fiero or it was just a passing phase and dismissed as a forgettable old boyfriend.
I want to ask her about her experiences and thoughts on the Fiero. It would be an interesting interview. |
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Hard to say till she is asked.
Too many people who are fans of cars get upset if people that worked on their cars don’t make it their favorite. To many people it is just another car or job.
But in Mary’s case she is an engineer and does like fun car contrary what some want to label her. I think she is still driving a Corvette today.
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Zeb
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FEB 21, 05:34 PM
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Good article, on Car & Driver there are links to two more decent writeups. One issue I noticed was:
quote | “In 1987, the Fiero's dedicated plant built just 46,581 units, about 20 percent of capacity, which made no economic sense,” says veteran automotive journalist Gary Witzenburg |
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That "20% capacity" works out to almost 234,000 units per year at 100% capacity. Yet, in: https://www.caranddriver.co.../remember-the-fiero/
quote | Pontiac anticipated selling somewhere near 30,000 Fieros that first model year. Instead it shipped 136,840 out to eager buyers. |
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Pontiac anticipated 30,000 per year, but built a plant capable of 234,000? That math doesn't make sense. Even for GM.
As far as Ms. Barra is concerned, if she drove a Fiero for "several years", she probably recalls that old boyfriend fondly. Hey, Mary! Hook up with him again!
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hyperv6
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FEB 21, 07:14 PM
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quote | Originally posted by Zeb:
Good article, on Car & Driver there are links to two more decent writeups. One issue I noticed was:
Pontiac anticipated 30,000 per year, but built a plant capable of 234,000? That math doesn't make sense. Even for GM.
As far as Ms. Barra is concerned, if she drove a Fiero for "several years", she probably recalls that old boyfriend fondly. Hey, Mary! Hook up with him again!
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Here is the true story on the plant. Pontiac needed this plant as they had few options. The plan was to over sell the car the first couple years till the GM 80 car was ready. The GM80 was the FWD AWD F body replacement.
Well no one liked the GM80 and when the Ford Prob was canceled as the Mustang and they continued with RWF we got the 4th Gen F body with 1990 Fiero styling.
When the GM 80 was canceled it was all the Corvette guys needed to kill the Fiero for fear it would prevent a C5.
The GM 80 and the Fiero at 30k units would have been about 2/3 or more of capacity.
It was a gamble Pontiac lost. There was no viable model to move as the GM80 had a composite body too.
The funny thing is the Corvette did get canceled. But Chevy hid it and finished the C5 and it got the go ahead because it was that hood at the time.
GM should have stepped in but as it was said Chevy sells more so Chevy gets more say,
Then they was the politics of the union deals that got canceled that made a family mess even worse.
Many fail to understand Pontiac was set to shut down. But they used the TA and Fiero to get people into the show room and it sold a crap ton of Grsnd Ams. This moved the target to Olds whose Cutlass FWD tanked.
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qwikgta
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MAR 05, 11:14 PM
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As I understand it, GM turned the Fiero plant into one to make the "Dust Buster" mini-van. The mini van was the new "it" vehicle. I wonder were would they have built the van if they didn't kill the Fiero. Seems like corporate decided the mini-van was going to be a bigger seller then a 2nd Gen Fiero.
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