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| The Design Rejects: Second-Generation Pontiac Fiero (Page 1/4) |
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TheDigitalAlchemist
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APR 07, 12:32 AM
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82-T/A [At Work]
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APR 07, 07:57 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by TheDigitalAlchemist:
From the February/March 2023 issue of Car and Driver:
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You know TDA, it occured to me when I was watching a video earlier... this prototype is *literally* built on the exact-same... identical space frame. There were no changes whatsoever to the frame, with the exception of the trunk sheet-metal. Someone with the skills needed could reproduce these panels, and we could build our own Gen-2 Fieros. Just a thought... I'd love to have one of these... the styling is amazing, and there's a few Fieros out there, still, that are so beat up, that restoring to stock just isn't worth it.
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IMSA GT
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APR 07, 12:32 PM
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I had not seen a photo in any book of the notchback concept until this article. Neat design.
These were the only images I could ever find of the car in the GM scrapyard waiting to be crushed.
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cvxjet
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APR 07, 05:07 PM
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I think it would be great if someone built a kit to convert the first gen Fieros to that second gen.
The other idea for a kit car was to do one of the 1976 Aerovette Concept car...never cease to amaze me that noone ever did that....
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hyperv6
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APR 08, 05:41 PM
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The reason you will not see a reproduction is the time and cost to do this is just too much.
Also the inability to scan or copy the original car makes it even more difficult.
Not that even GM when it preserved the GT repaired the C pillars and painted them black as it was too expensive to restore the plexi.
Also not the emblem on the bumper is not a Fiero. For some reason it has a GTA Firebird emblem. I know of three and may be 4 emblem for this car in private hands.
The coupe emblems are in the hands of a select few also.
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Raydar
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APR 10, 10:53 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by hyperv6:
The reason you will not see a reproduction is the time and cost to do this is just too much.
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Over the years, I have heard dozens of comments. "If I had the funds, I'd do a repro of the prototype in a hot minute."
And those that actually have the funds, realize that there probably wouldn't be enough of a market for the repro, to even make their investment back.
Or else they realize that they will need a lot more funds than they have, and then still go back to the first issue.
I love the design of the 90 GT. I also own three Fieros - all running. I'm still not sure that I'd run out and buy a repro, though.[This message has been edited by Raydar (edited 04-10-2023).]
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hyperv6
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APR 11, 09:05 AM
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We struggle just to get scoops made for the quarter panel.
There is just not the right kind of money here to do this as a repo right.
Markets for the Cobra and Grand Sport are strong as are street rods but the Fiero is just not in that kind of demand or money. It forcsure could be done but not for anything but the love of the car and a Fiero owner with deep pockets
Also you would need to scan or pull molds and I don’t expect GM is down with that.
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cvxjet
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APR 11, 11:27 AM
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Hyper- I know NOW it would not make sense- but back around 1990-95 it seems like something someone could/would have done. Actually, back in the late 80s it seems like someone should have made a one-off conversion to a Aerovette.
Sadly, our cars are fading just as the mid-engine Vette actually popularizes them again....(Rarely see Fieros in the JY anymore-and then they are usually the "Collectable!!!" 84s)
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hyperv6
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APR 11, 12:58 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by cvxjet:
Hyper- I know NOW it would not make sense- but back around 1990-95 it seems like something someone could/would have done. Actually, back in the late 80s it seems like someone should have made a one-off conversion to a Aerovette.
Sadly, our cars are fading just as the mid-engine Vette actually popularizes them again....(Rarely see Fieros in the JY anymore-and then they are usually the "Collectable!!!" 84s) |
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To be honest the car was shown for the first time in 1990 by John Schinella via smuggled out photos from GM at the Fiero meet at the Silver Dome.
The car was to be at the show and GM killed it being shown due to the issues internally at GM with hard feelings and also the closing of the plant on the UAW. There were many people still pissed off.
It was several years later before the car was shown in person.
GM would never have helped create a copy. To be honest we are lucky they saved this car.
Today scanning could make it easier to recreate but the cost is more. Then anyone who would be interested in doing it would pay.
Same on the Vette as while there may be more interested the cost would still be very high and difficult.
As for Fieros as to how many are around it is a matter of where you are at. Here in the mid West they may not be as common but they are still seen regularly.
To be honest the interest in the Fiero today has been on a good rebound as we are no longer that crappy car that catches fire. The public is now seeing them in a good light and values for good cars are as high as ever.
To be honest the fiero is only going to improve in the public eye and to the credit of the new Vette it has helped put the spot light on it again.
Now I am a Vette owner I have found in the past and more so now most Vette owners are Fiero fans. Most either had, want or still own on.
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Raydar
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APR 11, 04:48 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by hyperv6:
We struggle just to get scoops made for the quarter panel.
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True. Every word of it.
| quote | Originally posted by hyperv6:
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GM would never have helped create a copy. To be honest we are lucky they saved this car.
Today scanning could make it easier to recreate but the cost is more. Then anyone who would be interested in doing it would pay.
Same on the Vette as while there may be more interested the cost would still be very high and difficult.
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To be honest the fiero is only going to improve in the public eye and to the credit of the new Vette it has helped put the spot light on it again.
Now I am a Vette owner I have found in the past and more so now most Vette owners are Fiero fans. Most either had, want or still own on. |
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Seeing all the Trans Am knockoffs that people have been building on Camaro platforms, I'm still a bit surprised that nobody is "improvising" a latter day Fiero on the C8 platform.
You wouldn't even need to cobble up a complete Corvette. A space frame with suspension, and maybe some interior pieces would provide a good place to start. Just a basic platform.
In the spirit of the original Fiero, the car could be optioned with the 2.7 Ecotec turbo or the 4.3 LT V6. Maybe even the 3.6.
I used to joke about this, but I'm not really joking any more. If it were cheaper than a Corvette, I might even buy one. I'll bet others would, too.
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