Options on cheap rebuild of Chevy 235? (Page 2/3)
Thunderstruck GT MAR 24, 09:32 AM

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Originally posted by Hank is Here:
This is all old school methods...at least to me. While I have never done it on a 235 in a car, I have done the head and valve lap on a 235 in a truck.
In frame...don't pull the motor just leave it sit in the car while doing the rings. Pull the head, pull the pan, remove the rod caps and bring the pistons out the top...replace rings, put back togther...viola! If you feel like it you could even run a quick flex hone on the cylinders.

Valve lap? this is not a full valve job, you don't really cut the valve/seats but just reseat the valves. Basically remove the springs, remove the valve, add some valve granding compound to the valve/seat and spin away. If you geel up to it hook a drill to the steam of the valve. If you replace the main seal it is good to loosen the main caps to get a little sag/wiggle our to geat the new rear main seal in place.



LOL!

Try doing this on todays cars.
IanT720 MAR 24, 09:54 AM
Thanks for the insight! I actually got the engine on a stand so that makes my life easier haha. I will let you know how it goes!
rogergarrison MAR 24, 04:03 PM
Earlier versions of that engine, I think pre 54, didnt even have bearing inserts. They were called babbit bearings, where you just polished the block and caps surfaces.
IanT720 MAR 24, 04:28 PM

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Originally posted by rogergarrison:

Earlier versions of that engine, I think pre 54, didnt even have bearing inserts. They were called babbit bearings, where you just polished the block and caps surfaces.



Really? Non-detergent oil's gotta be a must in those! Heck mine, since it's a Belair has the optional oil filter lol

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rogergarrison MAR 27, 06:24 PM
I had a 53 Bel Air convertible and a 55 hardtop. I think the 53 had the babbit bearings, the 55 had an optional canister type filter that used a roll ot toilet paper as a filter if im remembering right. Power steering pump was the back of the generator. It also had vacuum wipers that quit when you gave it gas.
Patrick MAR 28, 02:10 AM

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Originally posted by rogergarrison:

It also had vacuum wipers that quit when you gave it gas.



Yep, I recall my parents' 55 Chev and how the wipers would slow down when the car went up a long hill.


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Originally posted by rogergarrison:

...the 55 had an optional canister type filter that used a roll ot toilet paper as a filter if im remembering right.



I'm old enough to remember seeing ads in magazines for the toilet-paper-roll-oil-filter gimmick/gizmo. I guarantee it wasn't OEM on the '55.

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IanT720 MAR 28, 08:29 AM
Oh man! I thought you guys were joking! Hahaha. Mine has the optional external filter. It's like a big can which has an element inside. Not sure what it looks like though.
rogergarrison MAR 28, 06:31 PM
No that filter was aftermarket. I guess I wasnt clear enough saying optional. It was not from the factory. And yes, I had cars with the factory canister type too. How many have seen oil filled air cleaners. .....5 quarts in the block and 1 in the air filter....? Both of my Mercedes SLs used an alloy canister, with a replaceable filter inside. It was under the block like a spin on filter. Its hard to believe cars all didnt come with an oil filter unless you ordered it.

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Patrick MAR 28, 06:46 PM

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Originally posted by rogergarrison:

How many have seen oil filled air cleaners. .....5 quarts in the block and 1 in the air filter....?



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Hank is Here MAR 31, 10:16 AM
I have heard of the tiolet paper filters but never bothered to see one before. Do you get better filtering if you use quilted double ply? lol These actually look like they could contaminate more than they would filter. Heck even the Russian paper oil filters for my motorcycle are better than TP.

I am still very familiar with these old engines, oil bath air filters, vacuum wipers and such. My father has a 1946 Chevy 1.5 ton with a 216, a 1950 Chevy sedan with a 216, and a 1966 pannel truck with a 292. Heck we still have some misc 235 parts (crank, head) sitting around as well as a spare compelte 216. I love the whole family of GM stovebolt I6 engines. They are not powerful, but they run well and long.

How many folks can have driven a three of the tree, or a vehicle with a two speed rear, or a vehicle with more than one transmission, a vehicle with all mechanical brakes, etc.
Maybe working on all of this stuff is why I hate new cars.