Retrieving trouble codes from a Subaru WRX (Page 3/3)
Patrick DEC 02, 11:56 PM

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Originally posted by thesameguy:

It's a nod to Japanese tuners of the '70s.

You may not like it, but I'm sure a lot of people don't like overweight, underpowered midengine domestics. Personally, I like cars. All of them.



It isn't a matter of "liking" it or not. It's simply a stupid place to put an oil cooler for a car driven (and parked) on public roads. It's way too vulnerable. It's just an seized engine waiting to happen (or at the least a very messy patch of pavement).

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thesameguy DEC 03, 01:25 AM
An external oil cooler doesn't concern me any more than a lowered car. I guess I just don't run into or over stuff. :shrug:
Patrick DEC 03, 01:31 AM

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Originally posted by thesameguy:

An external oil cooler doesn't concern me any more than a lowered car. I guess I just don't run into or over stuff. :shrug:



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Originally posted by Patrick:

What a great place to mount an oil cooler... and then have someone back into it while they're parallel parking in front of you.


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thesameguy DEC 03, 05:47 PM
You may be interested to know that not everyone lives in a place where parallel parking is a concern. Like most of America, for example.
Patrick DEC 03, 06:33 PM

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Originally posted by thesameguy:

You may be interested to know that not everyone lives in a place where parallel parking is a concern. Like most of America, for example.



Can you not exchange posts with me without becoming... disagreeable? You started off in this thread fine, but it's almost like you can't help yourself... you eventually get miserable to deal with.

You may be interested to know that I don't live in America. And the WRX that I posted a picture of with the front mounted external oil cooler is also not located in America. I live in Canada. We parallel park here. Earlier this year (as discussed in This thread) I had some idiot pull up in front of me in his raised pick-up truck while I was parked, and he proceeded to back up until the rear of his truck mounted the front of my Formula. Could've turned out a lot worse, but as it was, the nose badge was torn off and broken. Too bad I didn't have a front mounted external oil cooler to use as a buffer, eh?


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Originally posted by Patrick:

Here's where you can see the imprint the end of the truck's tail pipe made. You can also see come of the scuffing over by where the emblem used to be.







I decided a month or so ago to stay out of O/T to try and avoid people who were looking for an argument. If you can't remain civil, I'd appreciate it if you'd please just leave me be. And I'll avoid you as well. Thanks.

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Khw DEC 03, 10:41 PM

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Originally posted by thesameguy:

You may be interested to know that not everyone lives in a place where parallel parking is a concern. Like most of America, for example.



Really? Maybe in your corner of California but where I lived there and where I live here parallel parking isn't exactly rare...

Curious, if parallel parking is so yesterday why are there cars being made now that preform that function FOR the driver? I don't think it's that parallel parking isn't a "concern" it's more that people are no longer required to learn it to get a drivers license in many places so they don't do it because they don't know how. It doesn't mean everyone doesn't know how and that no one parallel parks anymore.
thesameguy DEC 04, 02:12 PM

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Originally posted by Khw:


Really? Maybe in your corner of California but where I lived there and where I live here parallel parking isn't exactly rare...

Curious, if parallel parking is so yesterday why are there cars being made now that preform that function FOR the driver? I don't think it's that parallel parking isn't a "concern" it's more that people are no longer required to learn it to get a drivers license in many places so they don't do it because they don't know how. It doesn't mean everyone doesn't know how and that no one parallel parks anymore.



Sure, there are places in California and America in general where people parallel park - obviously I live very close to SF and that's all parallel parking with all sorts of vehicle damage as a result. But the greater Bay Area isn't actually all that large, and not representative of California in general. There is no parallel parking in most of Southern California, you'd have to try to find any in Central California, etc. I can't name a time I've parallel parked in the Midwest... maybe in Chicago? Yeah, in older, denser cities people still parallel park, but that's not most of the country. For traffic control reasons, safety, and insurance *most* places are working hard to do away with it wherever possible.

I don't think a vehicular feature is indicative of a mass need in any way. If you've got the doodads for lane departure and auto cruise and the systems for auto steer and auto brake, adding parallel parking assist is pretty trivial. Lots of cars are adding hill start assist, but how many people actually live in areas where that's a concern? Very, very few. But once you have ABS and electronic throttle control, adding hill start assist is trivial. When you have technologies that are trivial to add but they look good in marketing, why would you not add them? I mean, a Toyota Camry will do 0-60 in 5.8 seconds. When is the last time you even saw a Toyota Camry doing 60mph, much less rocketing to get there?
thesameguy DEC 04, 02:19 PM
Totally anecdotal, but this quote sums it up:


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A commenter at The Baltimore Sun writes, "I moved to Virginia and I can attest to the woeful state of young drivers and their parallel parking skills. My step-daughter wouldn't have learned it at all if I hadn't taken the time to teach her and keep her active at it."



A young driver would not have learned to parallel park and wouldn't have needed to parallel park, but this guy took it up himself to teach her and force her to use the skill. I think that's great - a parallel parking ability is indicative of general vehicular skill, but as something most people need to do regularly if at all? Probably not.
thesameguy DEC 04, 02:39 PM

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Originally posted by Patrick:
Can you not exchange posts with me without becoming... disagreeable? You started off in this thread fine, but it's almost like you can't help yourself... you eventually get miserable to deal with.

You may be interested to know that I don't live in America. And the WRX that I posted a picture of with the front mounted external oil cooler is also not located in America. I live in Canada. We parallel park here. Earlier this year (as discussed in This thread) I had some idiot pull up in front of me in his raised pick-up truck while I was parked, and he proceeded to back up until the rear of his truck mounted the front of my Formula. Could've turned out a lot worse, but as it was, the nose badge was torn off and broken. Too bad I didn't have a front mounted external oil cooler to use as a buffer, eh?



Jesus you are touchy... you can call someone's automotive tastes stupid and throw in some rolleyes at their car but I can't be sarcastic? Whatever.

People mod their cars in ways that make sense to them. Maybe instead of judging them from where you sit based on your experiences, consider for a moment that maybe they don't have your challenges and that maybe they thought through what they did and considered it an acceptable risk. I just cannot wrap my head around one car guy calling into question another car guy's modifications. A *lot* of people would end the conversation at "Oh, you drive a Fiero." Don't be that guy. Somehow, this ticking time bomb of a WRX is still on the road, so maybe the risk isn't as great as you perceive, or maybe this guy manages his car in a way so that there is minimal risk. When I drive my Fiero into SF, I park in places or in ways that it's not exposed to vehicles that are going to hit it. Maybe this guy is similarly conscientious. But lacking in judgment? You don't know that.
Patrick DEC 04, 09:34 PM

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Originally posted by thesameguy:

Jesus you are touchy... you can call someone's automotive tastes stupid and throw in some rolleyes at their car but I can't be sarcastic? Whatever.



I described as being "stupid" the mounting of an unprotected external oil cooler on the front of a street driven (and street parked) car belonging to a guy who will NEVER know my opinion of it. He will therefore never be offended by anything I might've said. I am not describing or criticizing your car or your tastes.

You on the other hand seem to enjoy being "sarcastic" (your own description) to people you are addressing in this forum, including me (yet again), implying in this thread that I apparently run over and/or into things... and you then spout some BS nonsense trying to minimize the need to parallel park in "America". That was really something!

If you can't see the difference between what you and I have done here, then please, I'm asking again in a civil manner... just leave me alone. Thanks. I don't need or appreciate this crap from you. Spend more time in O/T if you like pissing people off. There are plenty of PFF members in O/T who enjoy flinging feces at each other. Go knock yourself out.

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