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FireGirl
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JUL 13, 01:20 AM
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I love this topic!! The other firebird forums I checked out, I have to click at least five topics to get to the threads I want!
92 Firebird, I had the window checked out, took it to a shop, he said he fixed the switch already (Hopefully it will work, because the outer plastic isn't there anymore as it broke in half, and the actual plastic button I can take out, and this happened after he 'fixed' it).
Anyway, he said in order for the window to work, I need to replace the motor. How would I go about doing that? I remember reading it to be a really tough job and to be prepared to cut your arms....is it really this hard?
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Darksyde
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JUL 13, 08:18 AM
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never done one on a firebird but I have done window motors before. They can be a pita. Typically a cpl mounting bolts and a clip for the arm. The hard part is getting it in and out due to the small holes in the door frame. Thats where the cuts come into play.
*edit* just looked at rockauto, looks like it has a gear on the end so it probably just sits in a track. Seems like a very small motor though. I cant see it being super hard. Also at $25 its a steal.[This message has been edited by Darksyde (edited 07-13-2012).]
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PBJ
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JUL 13, 10:12 AM
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I have replaced a few in the past and are by far the worst to do! Never again would be too soon for me....
as some usefull advice I remember the problem was mainly do not mess with original settings of regulator position, simply try to unbolt it and mess with as little as possible so the window rides up proplerly.
Pete------------------
88 3800 turbo...10 sec Quarter Mile Member.
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rogergarrison
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JUL 13, 12:27 PM
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Id suggest if you do it, get a whole assembly from a wrecking yard to install. Its not that hard. Putting in just a motor if your not familar with it, can be very dangerous. You can lose all your fingers in 1 second. Can even cut your whole hand off at the wrist if it doesnt just break it. There is a steel spring wrapped around the mechanism very tight and one wrong move unwinds it taking out anything in its way. Its OK IF you know what your doing. Not for the amature.
Just tell the yard you need the motor with the regulator on it. The only danger is if you remove the motor from the regulator. Most will test it for you to make sure it works ok.[This message has been edited by rogergarrison (edited 07-13-2012).]
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FireGirl
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JUL 13, 03:18 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by rogergarrison:
Id suggest if you do it, get a whole assembly from a wrecking yard to install. Its not that hard. Putting in just a motor if your not familar with it, can be very dangerous. You can lose all your fingers in 1 second. Can even cut your whole hand off at the wrist if it doesnt just break it. There is a steel spring wrapped around the mechanism very tight and one wrong move unwinds it taking out anything in its way. Its OK IF you know what your doing. Not for the amature.
Just tell the yard you need the motor with the regulator on it. The only danger is if you remove the motor from the regulator. Most will test it for you to make sure it works ok.
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I feel like this may be a job I should just take to the shop....
I've thought about taking it to a shop before, but I wanted to start working on my Firebird also (I've always taken her to a shop) but maybe one last time won't be such a bad idea.......
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ARFiero
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JUL 14, 06:42 AM
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Fire girl this isnT that hard of a job. When you up the Motorola it will come as an assembly with the gear and all. Take the door panel off and near the front you will see three rivets if it has never been replaced. Drill those out ( they are aluminum) and replace the motor. The rivets are replaced with three small bolts and nuts. Easiest way to keep the window out of your way is to buy two old door stops (the brown rubber angled ones) and, with the window up jam them into the door on both sides to hold it up. This job is so simple that the first time I did it on my IROC it took me about an hour total for both sides. any questions PM me and I'll try and help. remember I am in England right now so there will be a time delay.
Shelby
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E.Furgal
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JUL 17, 04:24 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by ARFiero:
Fire girl this isnT that hard of a job. When you up the Motorola it will come as an assembly with the gear and all. Take the door panel off and near the front you will see three rivets if it has never been replaced. Drill those out ( they are aluminum) and replace the motor. The rivets are replaced with three small bolts and nuts. Easiest way to keep the window out of your way is to buy two old door stops (the brown rubber angled ones) and, with the window up jam them into the door on both sides to hold it up. This job is so simple that the first time I did it on my IROC it took me about an hour total for both sides. any questions PM me and I'll try and help. remember I am in England right now so there will be a time delay.
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rogergarrison
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JUL 17, 07:46 PM
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The regulator arms that move the glass are like a big pair of hedge shears. If you dont have them locked down tite in the correct places, when you take the motor off and that spring unwinds, it snaps those 2 arms together like a giant pair of scissors and if your hand is in their way, they dont even slow down. The arms are 2 pieces of flat steel just like a blade.
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carnut122
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JUL 21, 10:48 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by rogergarrison:
The regulator arms that move the glass are like a big pair of hedge shears. If you dont have them locked down tite in the correct places, when you take the motor off and that spring unwinds, it snaps those 2 arms together like a giant pair of scissors and if your hand is in their way, they dont even slow down. The arms are 2 pieces of flat steel just like a blade. |
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I've never seen a spring on a motorized window. Is this a Firebird thing? As a matter of fact, I replaced the motor on the wife's 82 Z-28 and I don't remember any such spring (of course, I don't remember a whole lot of things).
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carnut122
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JUL 21, 10:53 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by ARFiero:
Fire girl this isnT that hard of a job. When you up the Motorola it will come as an assembly with the gear and all. Take the door panel off and near the front you will see three rivets if it has never been replaced. Drill those out ( they are aluminum) and replace the motor. The rivets are replaced with three small bolts and nuts. Easiest way to keep the window out of your way is to buy two old door stops (the brown rubber angled ones) and, with the window up jam them into the door on both sides to hold it up. This job is so simple that the first time I did it on my IROC it took me about an hour total for both sides. any questions PM me and I'll try and help. remember I am in England right now so there will be a time delay.
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I use duct tape to hold up the windows, and it might be more than 3 rivets-just see which ones are keeping you from removing the assembly (but, it sounds like AR has done this recently so I'll trust his version verses my memory from 20 years ago).[This message has been edited by carnut122 (edited 07-21-2012).]
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