Liberal logic at work (Page 1/5)
MidEngineManiac AUG 28, 12:05 PM
https://www.chicago.gov/cit...rsKiaAndHyundai.html

Ya all did it to yourselves when you made bars "responsible" for drunk drivers. When you made owners "responsible" for what is done by others with their inanimate objects. When you made men "responsible" but gave women "choice".

Now the car companies are "responsible" for auto theft.
rinselberg AUG 28, 12:23 PM
You have a financial stake for yourself in Kia or Hyundai?

Because that's what it sounds like.
MidEngineManiac AUG 28, 01:32 PM
Nope

Just real tired of living in a world where somehow I am responsible (or everybody else is) for everybody else's actions and choices.

It's NEVER the thief or shooters fault, it is the fault of the guy who left his car or weapons unlocked. Never the doper-vandals fault for destroying something, the owner should have put it elsewhere. Never the taggers fault, it's the store that sold the paint. It's a VERY long list.

The world is ****ed in the head !!!

[This message has been edited by MidEngineManiac (edited 08-28-2023).]

williegoat AUG 28, 01:40 PM
I got a better idea: Chicago, convict the criminals and lock them up.

Kia sells cars to people who want them. If you think a Kia might be stolen, you have two choices. Either buy a Ford or move to a better city.
fredtoast AUG 28, 04:07 PM
Oh Boo-hoo! Poor little multi billion dollar corporations. It is so mean to make them be responsible citizens. We should go back to not having safety glass in cars or seat belts. Who cares if hundreds of thousands more people will be killed or horribly mutilated in car wrecks? We can't be mean to corporations just because it saves human lives. There profits are more important than human blood.
MidEngineManiac AUG 28, 04:21 PM

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Originally posted by fredtoast:

Oh Boo-hoo! Poor little multi billion dollar corporations. It is so mean to make them be responsible citizens. We should go back to not having safety glass in cars or seat belts. Who cares if hundreds of thousands more people will be killed or horribly mutilated in car wrecks? We can't be mean to corporations just because it saves human lives. There profits are more important than human blood.



Were you lefties born retarded, or did you have to work to get that way ??????

How about car owners just shoot thieves on sight or lethal-mantrap their own property ? Turn the drivers seat into an old sparky for the thief.

Problem solved and responsibility end up exactly where it belongs.....on the now-dead car thier that wont be stealing anybody elses ride. YES, a car IS worth more than the thief's life.

Some Aisian corporation is responsible for a Chicogan being a car thief ??????????

fredtoast AUG 28, 04:33 PM

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Originally posted by MidEngineManiac:


Some Aisian corporation is responsible for a Chicogan being a car thief ??????????


Argument from 50 years ago. . . "So some car company is responsible for people flying through razor sharp shards of glass when they wreck their car. If they just drove better there would be zero wrecks."

Argument from 100 years ago. . . "So some coal company is responsible for black lung and bad air killing hundreds of thousands of miners. Why don't they just get other jobs if they are so afraid of black lung and poison gas"

Argument from 150 years ago. . . "So some medicine company is responsible for people going blind and dying when they take this medicine? I don't see anyone forcing anyone to drink this stuff"


NEVER, ever, ever, ever pick on the people getting rich from human misery. That is just the beauty of how capitalism works.
PhatMax AUG 28, 04:43 PM
Stupid argument fred…. I’m sure car companies set out to have people fly through shards of broken glass…seems like fun right ?
Just put on a freakin nerf suit idiot.
fredtoast AUG 28, 06:05 PM

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Originally posted by PhatMax:

Stupid argument fred…. I’m sure car companies set out to have people fly through shards of broken glass…seems like fun right ?
Just put on a freakin nerf suit idiot.




Car companies fought hard against the requirement of safety glass. Claimed the injuries were not their fault for using non-safety glass that shatters and cause so much more damage to the human body.

Thankfully government regulations were put in place that have prevented millions of deaths and serious injuries.

Unfortunately some people still believe profits are more important than human suffering.
MidEngineManiac AUG 28, 06:20 PM

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Originally posted by fredtoast:
Unfortunately some people still believe profits are more important than human suffering.



Nope....some people still believe personal choice and freedom wins over "social responsibility"

If you dont like the risk of riding in cars without certain features it's very simple. Stay out of them (YOUR personal choice). If you dont like the risks associated with agressive flying, stay out of those kinds of planes. If you dont like the risk associated with motorcycles, dont ride them. If you dont like the risk of your Kia being stolen, buy something else.

You dont get to dictate to the rest of we have to abide by and finance YOUR safe-spaces ideals.