'T' is for T cell. CDC unlikely to push for more Covid booster shots anytime soon. (Page 2/4)
sourmash FEB 21, 06:35 PM
No, we need to remind people of all the fear mongering to outright lies that we were told by the entire system. And are still being told. I wouldn't waste a minute graphs compiled by the system.
82-T/A [At Work] FEB 21, 08:36 PM

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That's not a gotcha, MJ. Just because I think younger people getting vaccinated with the mRNA is pointless, doesn't mean that I don't believe people have the right to make their own decision. Please don't misrepresent me.

I've not been alive as long as you have, but I've never seen a situation in my life where everyone believes themselves to suddenly be a virologist. I've also never seen a situation like this where so many blame the unvaccinated for why the vaccine doesn't work. If I have to get boosters every 6 months, then in my mind, the technology is flawed. I'll rely on my own immune system that's been developed over I don't know how many millions of years to take care of this one, just as I have other colds and flus.

Let me be clear (as Joe Biden says), I have plenty of faith in viral-based vaccines. Like you, the Department of Defense has filled me with more vaccines than I can shake a stick at. I'm vaccinated for everything from Anthrax to Typhoid. But the mRNA... definitely isn't winning any awards with me... and I definitely don't share your enthusiasm for it. I apologize... but that's just where I am right now. And... the national-level mandates for everyone, that definitely turned me from just being someone who didn't really have an opinion, to QUICKLY and completely being against them.
rinselberg FEB 21, 08:39 PM

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Originally posted by sourmash:

No. There were several news releases posted her showing that in European countries with every high rates of people injected with these rushed to market experimental gene therapies, that the injected filled the hospital at a higher rate as in the ICU and even died at higher rates.

Nobody ever explained Gibralter with it's 98% injection rate failing at stopping dramatic increases.in all categories mentioned.


"Sorry, But Gibraltar Doesn’t Make the Case for Vaccine Critics"

William Echols for Polygraph(.info); December 1, 2021.
https://www.polygraph.info/...-surge/31589031.html

Polygraph(.info) is part of VOA... the (once famous?) Voice Of America.

Gibraltar has been highlighted by certain individuals and groups as a place where Covid vaccines and boosters have been remarkably ineffective.

This report examines these assertions and puts numbers from Gibraltar’s Ministry of Health on display to argue that, as of December 1, 2021 (the date of the report), the assertions that Covid vaccines and boosters have not been effective in Gibraltar are a combination of misinformation and disinformation.

It's a "must read" for Gibraltar enthusiasts, regardless of their leanings.

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maryjane FEB 21, 09:23 PM

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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
That's not a gotcha, MJ. Just because I think younger people getting vaccinated with the mRNA is pointless, doesn't mean that I don't believe people have the right to make their own decision. Please don't misrepresent me.



I did not. I posted only what you stated and nothing else.
You mentioned nothing about 'rights' which is a completely different issue.
sourmash FEB 21, 10:48 PM

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Originally posted by rinselberg:

"Sorry, But Gibraltar Doesn’t Make the Case for Vaccine Critics"

William Echols for Polygraph(.info); December 1, 2021.
https://www.polygraph.info/...-surge/31589031.html

Polygraph(.info) is part of VOA... the (once famous?) Voice Of America.

Gibraltar has been highlighted by certain individuals and groups as a place where Covid vaccines and boosters have been remarkably ineffective.

This report examines these assertions and puts numbers from Gibraltar’s Ministry of Health on display to argue that, as of December 1, 2021 (the date of the report), the assertions that Covid vaccines and boosters have not been effective in Gibraltar are a combination of misinformation and disinformation.

It's a "must read" for Gibraltar enthusiasts, regardless of their leanings.






Your copy and paste narrative has failed already. Now respond to how every pretext of the official positions has failed at every step, please. But also, thanks for posting a response that fits in a screen of a mobile.
rinselberg FEB 22, 01:22 AM

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Originally posted by sourmash:
Your copy and paste narrative has failed already. Now respond to how every pretext of the official positions has failed at every step, please. But also, thanks for posting a response that fits in a screen of a mobile.


Great! I'll start with President Trump's "vision" that Covid was going to go away on its own, even before the first of the Covid vaccines could possibly have been readied for large scale distribution. This is what he said on 13 different occasions, from February 20 to April 29, 2020.



That was certainly a FAIL.

But guess what? I now feel like I have to either erase this or change the thread to Politics. I'll change the thread to Politics. So I guess this is headed for the Trash Can.

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82-T/A [At Work] FEB 22, 07:48 AM

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Originally posted by maryjane:

I did not. I posted only what you stated and nothing else.
You mentioned nothing about 'rights' which is a completely different issue.




LOL, MJ... you were attempting a "gotcha" to try to show my hypocrisy or something. I'm sorry if I'm not completely clear, but I don't feel as though I should have to explain every minute detail of my views whenever I open my mouth (or type on a keyboard). Let me re-iterate so there is no confusion going forward as to my views on all of this:


1 - I think the mRNA vaccine does practically nothing for healthy people
2 - My personal opinion is that most people under 40 are probably wasting their time.
3 - I have no intention of vaccinating my child with the mRNA vaccine
4 - I think everyone has the right to make their own decision, and I will not criticize anyone for getting vaccinated
5 - I support the Government's goal of making these vaccines available to the public
6 - I am 100% absolutely against any form of mandate for these vaccines
7 - I think anyone over 45 probably should get the vaccine, because even though it's effect has proven minimal, it has shown that it's helped keep people out of hospitals
8 - I prefer the J&J vaccine since it's virus based. As I've already had COVID twice, it makes no sense since I already have natural immunity to both strains.
9 - Pfizer has admitted that the "vaccine" does nothing for Omicron, or other strains, which is why they're working to release a new vaccine next month.
10 - This whole forced mandate has actually made me reconsider my views on existing vaccine mandates, and I would now support making all vaccines voluntary.
11 - My daughter has every vaccine recommended to her, except the mRNA. She'll be getting the HPV next month.
12 - I think Biden really screwed up, "bigly." He basically took something that was good, and made it negative using typical authoritarian leftism.
13 - The USG sponsored this through research that was conducted at Wuhan, we are partially to blame for this.
14 - Biden is too scared to address anything to do with China. The world should hope and pray I don't one day become president.


Please use this as a reference going forward so there are no "gotchas" perceived, intended, or otherwise.
82-T/A [At Work] FEB 22, 07:59 AM

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Originally posted by rinselberg:

Great! I'll start with President Trump's "vision" that Covid was going to go away on its own, even before the first of the Covid vaccines could possibly have been readied for large scale distribution. This is what he said on 13 different occasions, from February 20 to April 29, 2020.

That was certainly a FAIL. But guess what? I now feel like I have to either erase this or change the thread to Politics. I'll change the thread to Politics. So I guess this is headed for the Trash Can.





To be fair, there were a couple of things at play here, and this was in the very early stages of the virus. Almost all of the quotes were from early 2020. I suppose I'll do this in bullet form also... because it's easier than being misrepresented... which I know you don't do... but might as well just make it easy:


1 - Democrats at that time, were trying to prevent Trump from taking any drastic action. They too were saying it was going away, or wasn't something that we needed to worry about. Remember Pelosi parading in China Town to prevent Trump from locking down the border, and taking any drastic actions.

2 - Historically, all the other Influenza viruses, including Swine Flu, Avian Flu, etc... all eventually went away as well. There was no reason (at that time) to assume that this Corona virus would not end the same way.

3 - Everything he was saying was likely coming from his cabinet, which prominently included Dr. Fauci, and once they knew the concerns, he took action, which included Operation Warp Speed that ultimately brought a number of vaccines to market... not just the Pfizer & Moderna, but also the J&J and others.
sourmash FEB 22, 09:10 AM
The latest obviously ridiculous propaganda to be admitted to by The Science came from the claims repeated by rams and Rinse that the injections are better than natural immunity.

Bill Gates, of The Science, just fessed that "sadly" 'catching Omicron is better defense than the injections.' He said "sadly". Of course he failed. It was destiny.
82-T/A [At Work] FEB 22, 09:22 AM

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Originally posted by sourmash:

The latest obviously ridiculous propaganda to be admitted to by The Science came from the claims repeated by rams and Rinse that the injections are better than natural immunity.

Bill Gates, of The Science, just fessed that "sadly" 'catching Omicron is better defense than the injections.' He said "sadly". Of course he failed. It was destiny.




Until such point as we develop nanobots that can actively seek out certain viral infections and attack them, natural immunity will ALWAYS... ALWAYS be better than a vaccine.

It's common sense because, if you've already had a specific virus, your body already knows how to fight it. A vaccine won't do anything... even the mRNA... it would be like me providing advice to Maradona (when he was still playing soccer and not dead) on how to score a goal, because I was part of the Richmond Strikers regional team when I was in elementary school.


For the record, we have developed nanobots that can attack cancer cells... but it's not approved for human use yet.

One example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYB02zgulDg