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OH10fiero
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JAN 10, 06:46 PM
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How are the two even remotely related?
1) The documents Biden had were not being repeatedly requested to be returned, they were not taken to his home, and they were secured in a location that had limited access that not just anyone can get to. Trump bragged about taking the documents he had, and he had them stored in a room that was not secure in any way shape or form and that information can be backed up by the security footage trump provided.
2)The documents Biden had were documents he had while VP and probably working with in his role as VP which would explain why he had them unlike trump who just took what he wanted as he left a job he was voted out of.
3) When Biden and his staff discovered he had the documents they were immediately returned whereas trump ignored the request of being returned forcing the FBI to retrieve what he had and even then they had to back because he lied that he returned everything.
4) Biden did not have in his possession any documents that should not leave the security of the archives where trump had in his possession documents that can only be viewed legally in one location in our country and not even the president of the United States can declassify them.
There very glaring differences to both situations and anyone saying they are similar in any way is just making whatever excuse they need to support a power-hungry fascist dictator wannabe xenophobic misogynistic bigot.
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blackrams
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JAN 10, 07:17 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by OH10fiero:
How are the two even remotely related?
1) The documents Biden had were not being repeatedly requested to be returned, they were not taken to his home, and they were secured in a location that had limited access that not just anyone can get to. Trump bragged about taking the documents he had, and he had them stored in a room that was not secure in any way shape or form and that information can be backed up by the security footage trump provided.
2)The documents Biden had were documents he had while VP and probably working with in his role as VP which would explain why he had them unlike trump who just took what he wanted as he left a job he was voted out of.
3) When Biden and his staff discovered he had the documents they were immediately returned whereas trump ignored the request of being returned forcing the FBI to retrieve what he had and even then they had to back because he lied that he returned everything.
4) Biden did not have in his possession any documents that should not leave the security of the archives where trump had in his possession documents that can only be viewed legally in one location in our country and not even the president of the United States can declassify them.
There very glaring differences to both situations and anyone saying they are similar in any way is just making whatever excuse they need to support a power-hungry fascist dictator wannabe xenophobic misogynistic bigot. |
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So, would all that listed above be factual information you have resourced from a reliable source? If so, please share that source.
The glaring difference is, Biden's team knew that this would cause a crap storm and held the information until after the mid-terms.
Reference your last description of the bigot, as I've stated many times, I'm not a fan of the man (DJT) but, I do approve of most of his policies.
I'm also not defending DJT's possession of classified documents, if he's guilty of possessing documents illegally then due process should be sought, I don't have any inside information as to what he says versus what the government says but, as in the case of Obama's thousands of missing classified documents, HRC's classified documents on her private server and now Biden's classified documents in an office where the university it was located in received massive amounts of donations from Chinese sources, Former President Trump says he declassified the documents he had as I remember. A president can declassify. A VP can't. Other than that........
I believe what's good for the goose is good for the gander.
Rams[This message has been edited by blackrams (edited 01-10-2023).]
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Wichita
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JAN 10, 08:57 PM
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Are they planning to raid Biden's Delaware mansion?
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blackrams
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JAN 10, 08:59 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Wichita:
Are they planning to raid Biden's Delaware mansion?
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I can only hope the DOJ and FBI have a few unbiased agents left but, I can't answer that question.
Rams
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blackrams
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JAN 10, 09:23 PM
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And of course there is this regarding the University of Pennsylvania:
The Ivy League college raked in a total of $54.6 million from 2014 through June 2019 in donations from China, including $23.1 million in anonymous gifts starting in 2016, according to public records.
Most of the anonymous donations came after the university announced in February 2017 that it would create the Penn Biden Center for Diplomacy and Global Engagement. Joe Biden, whose term as vice president had just ended, was to lead the center and was also named a professor at the university.
So, of course this is a nothing burger right?
China loves Joe Biden. The question is why??????
https://lidblog.com/univers...lvania-biden-center/
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rinselberg
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JAN 10, 10:50 PM
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House (as in U.S. House of Representatives) investigations of the foreign influences (including China) on U.S. colleges and universities strikes me as having the makings of some "quality time".
It could be thought-provoking, or it could be "theatrics". Depending on who does the doing of it and how it's done.
"The driver's seat of a Lincoln Aviator is a mighty fine place to contemplate it."[This message has been edited by rinselberg (edited 01-10-2023).]
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Fats
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JAN 11, 12:11 AM
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The Lefties response is once again that it's not Trump, so it's OK. 🙄
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randye
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JAN 11, 12:21 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by OH10fiero:
There very glaring differences to both situations and anyone saying they are similar in any way is just making whatever excuse they need to support a power-hungry fascist dictator wannabe xenophobic misogynistic bigot.
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It's really amusing that you somehow believe that anyone would be dissuaded from arriving at their own conclusion lest they be "tarred" by that big TDS filled brush that you are waving gleefully about.
It is even more amusing that you somehow believe that there are "documents that can only be viewed legally in one location in our country", (wherever that mysterious "one location" might be), and that the POTUS allegedly lacks executive authority to declassify whatever materials / documents he chooses to.
Perhaps you might amuse us more by describing specifically what law(s) you imagine support your illusions.....and where that mysterious "one location in our country" is located.
As someone who spent over 20 years of his life handling and even creating classified materials, to include TS/SCI, I am eager for your "unique knowledge" on the matter.[This message has been edited by randye (edited 01-11-2023).]
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rinselberg
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JAN 11, 05:10 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by OH10fiero:
How are the two even remotely related?
1) The documents Biden had were not being repeatedly requested to be returned, they were not taken to his home, and they were secured in a location that had limited access that not just anyone can get to. Trump bragged about taking the documents he had, and he had them stored in a room that was not secure in any way shape or form and that information can be backed up by the security footage trump provided.
2)The documents Biden had were documents he had while VP and probably working with in his role as VP which would explain why he had them unlike trump who just took what he wanted as he left a job he was voted out of.
3) When Biden and his staff discovered he had the documents they were immediately returned whereas trump ignored the request of being returned forcing the FBI to retrieve what he had and even then they had to back because he lied that he returned everything.
4) Biden did not have in his possession any documents that should not leave the security of the archives where trump had in his possession documents that can only be viewed legally in one location in our country and not even the president of the United States can declassify them.
There [are] very glaring differences to both situations and anyone saying they are similar in any way is just making whatever excuse they need to support a power-hungry fascist dictator wannabe xenophobic misogynistic bigot. |
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BINGO
NEVER allow a Reactionary to frame / re-frame any discussion.
Reactionaries gotta Reactionary
#mendacious, perfidious, deceitful, deceptive, duplicitous, dissembling, disingenuous
 [This message has been edited by rinselberg (edited 01-11-2023).]
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blackrams
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JAN 11, 06:21 AM
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Interesting information reported this morning, the "Documents" were reported to be in reference to the UK, Ukraine and Iran. Hmm...........
Reported to be in a locked closet in the office former VP Biden used. Are we sure that's the truth?
It's interesting that Democrats don't think this is a serious violation of security or possibly influence peddling but, it's different for Trump.
All I'm looking for is fairness. IMHO, HRC should have been prosecuted, it was proven that she had the classified information on her private server and attempted to hide and destroy the evidence. The same may be true of DJT (although, it's been reported that DJT's documents were declassified) and President Biden (who has been accused of influence peddling along with his son Hunter), I don't have the inside information to say one way or another but, if that lap top had belonged to DJT's son, you can bet your bippy there would have been accusations and probably charges filed.
Anyone who denies this isn't political in nature is quite frankly full of crap and a partisan hack. I honestly don't want DJT to run for President but, I would like his policies to be continued. ------------------
Rams
Isn't it strange that after a bombing, everyone blames the bomber, his upbringing, his environment, his culture, his mental state but … after a shooting, the problem is the gun.........
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