Something to think about (music, culture, ethnic identity, religion) (Page 2/5)
williegoat MAY 06, 05:19 PM

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Originally posted by rinselberg:

I don't see how cultural diversity can legitimately be reduced to a progressive concept.

Cultural diversity is not inherently divisive. It only becomes divisive when people elevate culturally distinctive ideas and values to such an extent that it undermines the foundations of human civilizations and societies that should be universally shared and respected.



That is my point.


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Originally posted by williegoat:
Don't allow the narrow minded "progressive" concept of "cultural diversity" to divide us. A close inspection of culture will prove that we all have a lot in common. We all have a lot to share.


Where I find fault is with the narrow minded concept of "cultural diversity" promoted by Progressive Liberal dogma. I have said that many times over the years.


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I'm a Palestinian, and a journalist. But I'm not a Palestinian journalist. I'm a journalist... "period".


This should not be exceptional, it should be common sense. The Progressive Liberal dogma elevates cultural identity to a virtue. That is divisive. In the first video above, Sandeep Das says that he lost his identity in a beautiful way.
williegoat MAY 06, 05:32 PM
The reason I posted the two "Bela Fleck and the Flecktones" videos above is to show how the blending of cultures can be a great thing.

"The whole is greater than the sum of its parts."

Bela Fleck is one of the greatest musical minds in the history of music. He comes from a Bluegrass background. Victor Wooten is one of the best bass players in the world, he comes from a Funk background. Together they created a unique Jazz sound. When you add a Tuvan throat singer, you have created something truly special. That is cultural diversity, not cultural division.
rinselberg MAY 06, 06:58 PM

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Originally posted by williegoat:
Where I find fault is with the narrow minded concept of "cultural diversity" promoted by Progressive Liberal dogma. I have said that many times over the years.


I don't think of that as "Progressive Liberal dogma." I think that cultural diversity run amok comes from a different place. I would call that place the Far Left or Radical Left. I don't think of Pramila Jayapal, who chairs the Progressive Caucus, or Ro Khanna, who represents my district, as Far Left or Racial Left, or as "dogmatic". I think they are more reasonable than that.

I focused on the first two that came to my mind.

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williegoat MAY 06, 07:28 PM

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Originally posted by rinselberg:

I don't think of that as "Progressive Liberal dogma." I think that cultural diversity run amok comes from a different place. I would call that place the Far Left or Radical Left. I don't think of Pramila Jayapal, who chairs the Progressive Caucus, or Ro Khanna, who represents my district, as Far Left or Racial Left, or as "dogmatic". I think they are more reasonable than that.


Oh no! You said "Left" four times! You are going to hell, or a reeducation camp. One or the other. Or, you just admitted that Left is a legitimate political descriptor.


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I focused on the first two that came to my mind.



You focused on the first two what? Ethnic Indians?

One was born in Philly and the other grew up in Southeast Asia. Both are Americans.

I did not follow their elections, so I have no idea if they were chosen for anything other than their political views. Do you?

I can tell you that both Kamila Harris and Karine Jean-Pierre were chosen for characteristics unrelated to their job requirements. Does that make Joe Biden a Radical Leftist?
Patrick MAY 06, 08:04 PM

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Originally posted by williegoat:

Oh no! You said "Left" four times! You are going to hell, or a reeducation camp. One or the other. Or, you just admitted that Left is a legitimate political descriptor.



I don't believe anyone here has ever questioned use of the words "left" or "right" in regards to political affiliation.

The term "leftist" is the one thrown around ad nauseam by the brain-dead.

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williegoat MAY 06, 08:13 PM

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Originally posted by Patrick:

I don't believe anyone here has ever questioned use of the words "left" or "right" in regards to political affiliation.

The term "leftist" is the one thrown around ad nauseam by the brain-dead.



That is absurd. The Left is composed entirely of Leftists. There can be no Left without Leftists.
rinselberg MAY 06, 08:14 PM
I haven't said that "left" or "leftist" in a political context cannot be meaningful terms.

I have said (and continue to say) that certain forum members (one in particular, of late) are explicitly calling out or insinuating "left" and "leftist" without having a sensible thought in their heads when they do it, and they are doing it with the same frequency as a cocaine-addicted rat would bump up against a button that dispenses cocaine-infused food pellets in some kind of laboratory experiment.
williegoat MAY 06, 09:01 PM
So, can we say that diversity solely for the sake of diversity has no merit in political ideology, and is a flawed tenet touted by some Leftists?
rinselberg MAY 06, 09:11 PM
I wouldn't agree that either Kamala Harris as VP or Karine Jean-Pierre as White House Press Secretary are examples of diversity solely for the sake of diversity.

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williegoat MAY 06, 09:16 PM

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Originally posted by rinselberg:

I wouldn't agree that either Kamala Harris as VP or Karine Jean-Pierre as White House Press Secretary are examples of diversity, solely for the sake of diversity.


So, do you believe that each was the best available candidate for her job?