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fredtoast JUL 07, 04:59 PM

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Originally posted by cliffw:


Oh the horror. Do we really have that many trans gender phobes in the USA ?



No. Not at all. Overall the US population is progressive and becoming more accepting. Bud Lite is one specific product whose core market is the knuckle-dragging crowd. Other more progressive "edgy" companies like NIKE have thrived with "woke" spokespeople.

Overall we are moving in the right direction. But certain groups always lag behind a bit.
82-T/A [At Work] JUL 07, 09:01 PM

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Originally posted by cliffw:

Oh the horror. Do we really have that many trans gender phobes in the USA ?





One of the biggest problems that Democrats are realizing, is that minorities are more likely to be transgender phones.

Really, it's not an issue with white people, since the majority of trans people are actually white people.


This has become more and more an issue. The media is only really quasi-reporting on the backlash from Muslim people or those from the Islamic faith. These don't even make a scratch... but it's actually the Hispanics. Hispanics, same as my own Hispanic roots, are extremely family oriented... almost to a fault. They are also very religious. The only place that transgenderism is kind of a thing, is the United States, Canada, and Europe. It's not really a big thing in South or Central America where 97 and 95% of the population is Catholic. As more and more of these people move into the United States, the radical-leftists just automatically assume that because they're poor, minorities, and largely uneducated, that they're going to vote Democrat. This is intentionally why the border is open. We know this because Cuban refugees used to have the wet-foot/dry-foot policy that would grant them immediate citizenship... but Obama overturned this because literally all of them were immediately becoming Republican. Never the less, Hispanic immigrants are generally horrified by the massive transgender cultural shift that's being pushed by the media and corporations. Furthermore, for black Americans, they are also overwhelmingly religious (mostly Baptist) and they are also anti-Trans.

Despite the ... yet again, totally incorrect information, America has actually become LESS supportive of trans people... and even gay rights in general. Matter of fact, just 2 years ago, in 2020, 70% of the U.S. population identified as supporting gay marriage. By the start of 2021, it had risen to 71%. Now, support for gay marriage has gone down significantly to 64% and it continues the decline. I heard a recent polling from Pew (cannot find it now) that says it's as low as 61%. This is the Newsweek Article showing that support is in decline:
https://www.newsweek.com/am...s-poll-shows-1807422

Incidentally, most of this change comes from a loss of Republican support, but it's also worth noting that the number of Republicans in the country has increased over Democrats as well. But this drop also accounts for an overall 6% drop in support from Democrats as well... which makes up the total 7% decrease in support. So yeah... not getting better... it's getting worse. And it's directly because of this force-feeding from radical leftists. Most estimates believe it's actually much much worse, since most of the illegals coming into this country are diametrically opposed to anything of the sort.
olejoedad JUL 08, 11:25 AM
If one doesn't want to be indoctrinated by the Media, it's simple.

Turn of the damn TV!
fredtoast JUL 08, 12:29 PM

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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:

It's not really a big thing in South or Central America where 97 and 95% of the population is Catholic. As more and more of these people move into the United States, the radical-leftists just automatically assume that because they're poor, minorities, and largely uneducated, that they're going to vote Democrat. This is intentionally why the border is open. We know this because Cuban refugees used to have the wet-foot/dry-foot policy that would grant them immediate citizenship... but Obama overturned this because literally all of them were immediately becoming Republican. Never the less, Hispanic immigrants are generally horrified by the massive transgender cultural shift that's being pushed by the media and corporations. Furthermore, for black Americans, they are also overwhelmingly religious (mostly Baptist) and they are also anti-Trans.




You lost me there for a second about how the Democrats knew Latinos would become republicans because of the Cubans but now want more Latinos in the country to vote for them. You do realize that you are contradicting yourself don't you? The fact is that Cuban immigrants all the way back to the 1960's favored Republicans because of their strong anti-communist position. So the ending of the "wet foot/dry foot" policy had nothing to do with Cubans voting for Republicans. Instead it was just a part of Obama's attempts to have more open relationship with Cuba.

But you do have a point about blacks and Latinos being more influenced by religion than the Democrat base. It was especially apparent with the abortion issue. Trump showed an increase in the number of blacks voting republican and a study I saw showed that it was almost entirely based on the abortion issue.

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fredtoast JUL 08, 12:45 PM

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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:


So yeah... not getting better... it's getting worse. And it's directly because of this force-feeding from radical leftists.


It has nothing to do with "force feeding from radical leftists". It is just a part of a moralistic trend.

The number of people who claim divorce is immoral has also been on the rise. I don't see any leftist radicals force-feeding support of divorce. Same thing with birth control. More people are starting to claim that it is "immoral" without any push from left wing radicals.
fredtoast JUL 08, 12:48 PM

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Originally posted by olejoedad:

If one doesn't want to be indoctrinated by the Media, it's simple.

Turn of the damn TV!




The problem is that all the people screaming about the media indoctrinating people actually WANT TO BE INDOCTRINATED as long as it is for their side. They actively seek out sources that tell them what they want to hear.
82-T/A [At Work] JUL 08, 12:53 PM

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Originally posted by fredtoast:

You lost me there for a second about how the Democrats knew Latinos would become republicans because of the Cubans but now want more Latinos in the country to vote for them. You do realize that you are contradicting yourself don't you?

But you do have a point about blacks and Latinos being more religious. This is very apparent when it comes to abortion. Trump saw an increase in the percentage of blacks voting Republican. The study I saw claimed it was almost 100% because of the abortion issue.




Ok, so you've hit a sore spot for me. I'm guessing that like the majority of the country... you assume everyone who is "Hispanic" means "Mexican." I'm assuming you don't realize that there are black Hispanics, white Hispanics, Native American Hispanics... etc. People from Central America, are diametrically different than people from South America (both in looks and culture). This is why I get so frustrated when Hollywood makes a movie that's supposed to be filmed in Miami, but they film it in Southern California... and they hire a bunch of Hispanics of Mexican descent to fill the role of the ambient Cubans. It infuriates me. This is why people from the rest of the country don't seem to know the difference. It's like making the assumption that Japanese, Korean, Chinese, and Thai people all look the same. It's actually kind of racist because anyone who's visited any of those countries can tell they all look completely different. It's like saying Dutch people look like Eastern Europeans.

So let me help you understand. Cubans have been escaping Communism in Cuba. There WAS a refugee law that was put into place called the "Wet Foot / Dry Foot" policy. It was ONLY valid for Cubans. If a Cuban could make it onto land by boat, they were granted citizenship in the United States. This was ONLY for Cubans. This was put in place after the botched CIA support mission during the Bay of Pigs invasion. Cubans fleeing Cuba are overwhelmingly anti-Communist, to the point that nearly every single one that comes ashore becomes rabidly anti-Democrat. Democrats have known this for a long time, and it's in large part of the reason why Florida has slowly become Republican. We now have over 700k more registered Republicans in this state than Democrats.

Obama saw this as a problem, and as soon as he was able to, he quickly rescinded the Wet-Foot/Dry-Foot rule. He knew this specifically benefited Republicans, and this was dangerous for long-term Democrat rule.

The intent of increasing mass illegal immigration from the Obama administration, and then from the Biden administration (with support from Republicans who want cheap labor), is an attempt to eventually get these people to become citizens. They are constantly floating laws to naturalize the illegals in the country just as Reagan did in the 80s. Democrats want poor and uneducated people from Central America because they tend to be politically neutral... to the point that they don't have a particular care or interest, but want handouts and welfare that the United States is willing to offer.

What Democrats didn't account for is that these people are all Catholic. Additionally, since ending the Wet-Foot / Dry-Foot policy, these Cubans are now actually coming through the Texas border. They are instead going to Cancun, which is actually a slightly shorter distance, and they are then coming up and around the US / Mexican border. These people are even MORE Republican than every before... because the elimination of the Wet-Foot / Dry-Foot policy absolutely angered Cuban refugees. So most of these Cubans are now starting to settle in Texas and places like that. Furthermore, with the breakdown of government in Venezuela, and to some extent Argentina and Brazil (and other countries), these people are diametrically opposed to Socialism (they're seeing where it got them)... and they're coming across the border too, setting in Texas and the other border states. While they can't yet vote... they are almost all Catholic, and also support VERY Republican ideals.

So it's starting to backfire, and the Democrats, like you... who just assume everyone looks the same that isn't outright white, had no idea that there were "different kinds" of Hispanics and that they all have different views and cultures based on where they came from. I'm kind of getting a kick out of it, to be honest...

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fredtoast JUL 08, 01:10 PM

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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
Ok, so you've hit a sore spot for me. I'm guessing that like the majority of the country... you assume everyone who is "Hispanic" means "Mexican."


So it's starting to backfire, and the Democrats, like you... who just assume everyone looks the same that isn't outright white, had no idea that there were "different kinds" of Hispanics and that they all have different views and cultures based on where they came from. I'm kind of getting a kick out of it, to be honest...




I was the one who just explained to you why Cubans were unique in their support of Republicans. For years they were escaping from an oppressive communist regime and the Republicans had a stronger anti-communist position than Dems. Democrats are well aware of this difference and have been for a long time.



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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:

Obama saw this as a problem, and as soon as he was able to, he quickly rescinded the Wet-Foot/Dry-Foot rule.





C'mon, man. It was literally one of the very last things he did as President. In was January of 2017 after he had been in office for 8 national elections including the one where Hillary lost to Trump.

Where the hell do you come up with this stuff?
82-T/A [At Work] JUL 08, 01:16 PM

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Originally posted by fredtoast:

C'mon, man. It was literally one of the very last things he did as President. In was January of 2017 after he had been in office for 8 national elections including the one where Hillary lost to Trump.



Yes... because Trump won Florida, and they realized the "damage" the Cubans had caused the Democrats in this election. Since I know you didn't know this, I am happy that you looked it up in an attempt to call me out on it. The more I can get you to look something up as you try to refute me, the more I'm able to fill your head with correct facts that break down your liberal brain-washed biases.



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Originally posted by fredtoast:
Where the hell do you come up with this stuff?



News articles from Democrat websites that don't make the front page.
fredtoast JUL 08, 01:28 PM

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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:

Since I know you didn't know this, I am happy that you looked it up in an attempt to call me out on it. The more I can get you to look something up as you try to refute me, the more I'm able to fill your head with correct facts that break down your liberal brain-washed biases.





I prove that you do not know what you are talking about and you try to brag about it?

I prove that you are clueless, but I am the one who is "brainwashed"?

WTF??????