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olejoedad
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DEC 31, 01:49 PM
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rinselberg
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DEC 31, 05:08 PM
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Was Mike Flynn "illegaly surveilled" by the Obama administration?
Here's how I remember it:
During the transition period, President-elect Trump announced that Mike Flynn would become National Security Advisor on Day One of the Trump administration.
During the transition period, Mike Flynn got on the telephone with the Russian ambassador to the United States.
This telephone conversation was overheard by Obama administration security officials because the Obama administration was eavesdropping on the Russian ambassador's telephone conversations.
The Obama administration picked up that whoever was on the other end of the telephone call was signaling to the Russian ambassador that the incoming Trump administration was receptive to the idea of rolling back some of the sanctions that the Obama administration had imposed on Russia in response to Russia's elections interference, which had become known before Trump would take office.
Technically, this could have been viewed as a violation of the Hatch Act. Susan Rice, who was Obama's national security advisor, used her authority to have this telephone conversation "unmasked," which confirmed that it was Mike Flynn who was discussing the sanctions with the Russian ambassador.
There was no effort by the DOJ to try to prosecute Mike Flynn for a Hatch Act violation, which has hardly ever been prosecuted since the Hatch Act was enacted.
In the first few days of the Trump administration, the FBI interviewed Mike Flynn as part of the ongoing Crossfire Hurricane investigation into Russia's elections interference.
Mike Flynn misled the FBI about this telephone conversation that he had had with the Russian ambassador during the transition period, when Trump was President-elect but Obama was still President.
Was that "illegal surveillance" of Mike Flynn?[This message has been edited by rinselberg (edited 12-31-2023).]
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olejoedad
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DEC 31, 08:01 PM
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Your memory isn't all that good, rinse.
Flynn shouldn't have mislead Pence, just as the FBI shouldn't have played politics.
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BingB
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DEC 31, 11:32 PM
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Actually that is the exact definition of "sacking".
In fact you listed a link to a source that says Trump "fired" Flynn. So thanks for proving my point.
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BingB
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DEC 31, 11:35 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by olejoedad:
Your memory isn't all that good, rinse.. |
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Yes it is. That is exactly what happened.
What part do you claim that he got wrong?
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olejoedad
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JAN 01, 10:41 AM
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'Sacking' refers to firing someone without notice, and in many cases, for no reason.
General Flynn was asked to give his resignation.
Evidently, you've never had the responsibility for hiring or firing people at the administrative level.
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rinselberg
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JAN 01, 11:15 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by olejoedad:
'Sacking' refers to firing someone without notice, and in many cases, for no reason.
General Flynn was asked to give his resignation.
Evidently, you've never had the responsibility for hiring or firing people at the administrative level.
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It was BingB that used the word "sacking" to describe the end of Mike Flynn's conspicuously brief tenure as President Trump's first National Security Advisor.
But what about the surveillance issue? Was Mike Flynn a victim of illegal surveillance that was ordered and carried out during the Obama administration and before Trump's first day in office?
That is the question that is raised here and again here, within this thread
These are Reply #7 and #11 in the sequence of this thread. They are both from me.
I say that there was nothing illegal or even just improper or unethical about this Obama-administration ordered surveillance and telephone conversation eavesdropping, in so far as how Mike Flynn fits into that picture.
What say you?
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olejoedad
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JAN 01, 11:26 AM
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I say that you are a victim of your addiction to biased media sources that have been covering for a politicized department of justice.
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ray b
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JAN 01, 11:36 AM
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MAGA'S HATE IT WHEN CAUGHT
AND THEY ALL DO GET CAUGHT
EVEN THE RUMP
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BingB
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JAN 01, 07:43 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by olejoedad:
'Sacking' refers to firing someone without notice, and in many cases, for no reason.
General Flynn was asked to give his resignation.
Evidently, you've never had the responsibility for hiring or firing people at the administrative level.
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"Sacking" is defined by Merriam Webster and Cambridge as "an act of dismissal from employment or an office".
Evidently, you have never used a dictionary.
You can't just make up your own definition for words.
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