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Patrick
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OCT 21, 05:38 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by williegoat:
My objection was to intentional, incessant deflection.
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Intentional? Absolutely.
Incessant? No more incessant than the use of "leftist" as a derogatory term in this forum.
| quote | Originally posted by Patrick Here:
...the argument that a word is just a word is bogus. It depends on how that word is being utilized. Referring to a male child as a "boy" for example is fine. Addressing an adult black male as "boy" obviously has negative connotations. The word "leftist" is itself not a negative term, but when it's constantly being used (by certain people) in association with every evil on the face of the planet, its use becomes more than tiresome. Simple-minded morons then use the term "leftist" to try and demean anyone who doesn't reside on the far-right of the political spectrum... and that's why there continues to be kickback here over its misuse.
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[This message has been edited by Patrick (edited 10-22-2023).]
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cliffw
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OCT 22, 08:19 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by Patrick:
No more incessant than the use of "leftist" as a derogatory term in this forum.
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Wow !
You are reasoning like my wife often does. What's in a word ? Does "leftist" butt hurt you ? Does "liberal" also butt hurt you as derogatory ?
Myself, I prefer "leftoid".
Derogatory term in this forum ? Did you not read the leftoid Saul Alinsky's book, "Rules For Radicals ? Do you decry the phrase "MAGA Republicans" ?
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rinselberg
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OCT 22, 10:19 AM
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There are forum members whose remarks in this Politics (& Religion) section include the words "the Left," or "Leftist," or some other close variation of that, with astonishing predictability. They seldom post anything in this forum that doesn't "go there" directly in that way.
The contexts they use makes it derogatory, but it's also a "catch-all." Almost anyone seems to be a "leftist" in their eyes. You could say that this is the randomization of the word "leftist."
If almost anyone is a "leftist," then it is not a meaningful term.
Here's what I said about that, just the other day:
https://www.fiero.nl/forum/...L/000818-8.html#p299
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williegoat
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OCT 22, 10:30 AM
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I use nouns so that English speaking people will understand what I am talking about. Nouns are labels. The word Leftist is a noun, a label. Labels facilitate communication. If one consistently agrees with Leftist ideology, he is a Leftist. I use the word Leftist to label such people and their ideology.
I would be insulted if one were to call me a Leftist. If one views the word Leftist as insulting, I can only conclude that he understands the truth behind Leftist ideology.
"See Spot. See Spot run. Out damned spot!"
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rinselberg
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OCT 22, 10:35 AM
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Define "leftist ideology."
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williegoat
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OCT 22, 10:39 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by rinselberg:
Define "leftist ideology." |
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I did, in the second link of my opening post of this thread. You weren't interested.
You said, "The second of the two topics just kind of fizzled out, because no one who saw it was that excited about the quotation from Thomas Sowell."
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williegoat
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OCT 22, 10:46 AM
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I use Leftist, so that I don't have to repeatedly define Leftist ideology. That is the very purpose of labels.
I suppose I could just use a picture of Bernie Sanders, but that would be cumbersome.
Do I need to define cumbersome? Of course not, because you already KNOW WHAT I MEAN.
 [This message has been edited by williegoat (edited 10-22-2023).]
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rinselberg
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OCT 22, 10:50 AM
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williegoat
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OCT 22, 10:52 AM
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Why don't you take that up with Wichita? It is not my problem.
Now, I could use the tactics of the infamous Leftist Guru, Saul Alinsky, and suggest that you won't take it up with Wichita because you are afraid of Wichita. Are you Wichita-phobic? That would make you a bigot, right?[This message has been edited by williegoat (edited 10-22-2023).]
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Jake_Dragon
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OCT 22, 11:19 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by Patrick:
Jake apparently agrees! 
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Jake_Dragon Here:
You are so stuck on labels you cant even see anymore. Stop trying to group everyone in some tidy label so you don't have to look at it.
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Back under your bridge Canuck
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