White House Protest / Yemen Bombing... (Page 3/5)
rinselberg JAN 14, 10:12 PM

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Originally posted by theBDub:

Gen Z and the younger end of millennials strongly consider power imbalances when considering right/wrong. They think in terms of oppressors vs. oppressed, and that drastically impacts their opinion.

That said, consider that someone like Thomas Massie also thinks the attack on Yemen was uncalled for, saying bombing people in their sleep is not self defense. Matt Gaetz, who is kind of weird to pin down but is not the typical young college kid, also criticized the move.

I think what you’re seeing is a feeling of “with great power comes great responsibility.” It’s hard to argue a response was needed, but I think it’s generally a good thing to be critical of ourselves.


What an utterly bizarre remark.

Does he think that the Houthis know or care whether anyone might be asleep on any of the ships that they've been attacking?
Patrick JAN 14, 10:21 PM

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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:

I'm not going to criticize your character from the perspective of... I think you genuinely/truly think you're doing good. But in my opinion, being legitimately trans is an exceptionally rare condition... like one in a million.



What is it you think I've done/said in regards to "trans" people? Where is it you think I stand on this topic? What is it you're arguing about with me?
82-T/A [At Work] JAN 15, 12:20 PM

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Originally posted by Patrick:

What is it you think I've done/said in regards to "trans" people? Where is it you think I stand on this topic?



You'll have to excuse me. I forget that you don't have any interest in actually being PART of a conversation, just hanging around and making random comments about other people's comments.

Maybe you can break that cycle and tell me here right now how you stand on this topic?
BingB JAN 15, 12:55 PM

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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:


No, it means we have a different perspective, and think that your "doing right," is ... while good-intentioned, actually doing more harm than good


People on the left say the same thing about the right. In fact, you yourself have complained that a big problem with the left is that "they think they know what is best for everyone". Then you follow that up with "But we on the right really do know what is best for everyone".

Here is the way I play it. I believe in individual freedom so I say let the individual make their own decision. But it gets complicated when children are involved. Should parents be allowed to refuse to get medical treatment for their sick children and just depend on prayer? Should parents be allowed to authorize sexual re-assignment surgery for their minor children? Those are real tough questions that I struggle to answer. But nothing is gained by one side claiming they have all the answers.
rinselberg JAN 18, 01:01 PM

In a move reminiscent of Subway's famous "$5 FOOTLONG" campaign, the Biden administration greenlighted the Pentagon for a 5th round of airstrikes in a little more than 5 days against Houthi anti-ship missile facilities in Yemen, highlighting the Iran-allied group's persistence in their disruption of vital shipping lanes in the Red Sea—and the Biden administration's resolve to reign in the renegades.


DoD spokesperson John Kirby flashed the iconic "FOOTLONG" gesture as he announced this latest round of U.S. airstrikes.

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williegoat JAN 18, 01:12 PM
I wonder how much money we have spent on missiles since Biden took office.
82-T/A [At Work] JAN 18, 01:30 PM

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Originally posted by BingB:

People on the left say the same thing about the right. In fact, you yourself have complained that a big problem with the left is that "they think they know what is best for everyone". Then you follow that up with "But we on the right really do know what is best for everyone".



Nope!

The Federal government has no business getting involved in social and cultural issues. As long as everyone's Constitutional rights are being maintained, leave everything else up to the states to figure out. State competition is why this country still exists and is as strong as it is. When policies fail (e.g., California, New York), other states take up the slack and become successful with better policies (e.g., Florida, Texas).
williegoat JAN 18, 01:41 PM
BingB JAN 18, 03:56 PM

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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
Nope!

The Federal government has no business getting involved in social and cultural issues



I think I might agree with you, but "social and cultural" issues is a pretty vague term. How do you define them? Are race and religion "social or cultural" issues?


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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
State competition is why this country still exists and is as strong as it is. When policies fail (e.g., California, New York), other states take up the slack and become successful with better policies (e.g., Florida, Texas).




That works great for the wealthy elite who can just pick up and move on a whim. Not so much for the poor black people living in the southern states during the Jim Crowe era.
82-T/A [At Work] JAN 18, 04:32 PM

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Originally posted by BingB:
I think I might agree with you, but "social and cultural" issues is a pretty vague term. How do you define them? Are race and religion "social or cultural" issues?



These are already defined by the Constitution. I'm talking about the Federal government pushing a cultural agenda... like implementing DEI, etc. If the state of California wants to do that, let them.



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Originally posted by BingB:That works great for the wealthy elite who can just pick up and move on a whim.



Life isn't fair. What's worse is central government control where everyone suffers forever, and there are no alternative options.



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Originally posted by BingB: Not so much for the poor black people living in the southern states during the Jim Crowe era.



Well, we (my family) fought a war for that, I consider it case closed. My statement wasn't all or nothing binary. Right now... we need state competition more than anything.