California legislature passes bill banning voter ID laws (Page 6/6) BingB SEP 02, 04:47 PM quote Originally posted by Doug85GT: Not a single one is a first hand quote. WTF are you talking about. Every single one of them is a direct quote. Go to the article and see for yourself. These are people who actually know what they are talking about when they discuss elections and voter suppression. you have never spent a minute researching any of this. You just made something up in your head and claimed it was true. And since you refuse to research all you keep doing is dumping more useless anecdotal evidence on top of other useless anecdotal evidence creating a huge pile of nothing. Why don't you call up all these political advisors and explain to them how they are all wrong and wasting their resources on voter ID laws. And explain what an expert you are on poor people so they will be sure to do exactly what you tell them to. cliffw SEP 02, 05:33 PM quote Originally posted by BingB: Two points. 1. The fraudulent vote is more likely to be for the candidate you support, so it will "double" instead of "cancel out". 2. One US citizen denied their right to vote by restrictive voter ID laws is a stolen vote. This justifies by objection to them. 1) You do not know that. 2) Speak coherently. What you mean is ... One US citizen denied their right to vote by restrictive voter ID laws is a stolen vote. This justifies the objection to them. Are their stolen votes more important than mine ? Where are these no ID voters getting their government cheese ? Doug85GT SEP 02, 05:53 PM quote Originally posted by BingB: WTF are you talking about. Every single one of them is a direct quote. Go to the article and see for yourself. These are people who actually know what they are talking about when they discuss elections and voter suppression. you have never spent a minute researching any of this. You just made something up in your head and claimed it was true. And since you refuse to research all you keep doing is dumping more useless anecdotal evidence on top of other useless anecdotal evidence creating a huge pile of nothing. Why don't you call up all these political advisors and explain to them how they are all wrong and wasting their resources on voter ID laws. And explain what an expert you are on poor people so they will be sure to do exactly what you tell them to. Every quote you posted is a 2nd hand accounting and would be considered hearsay in court. What I posted are real life examples of things that require an ID to do. You are the one claiming there are people who are registered to vote but don't have any form of identification. Show us some of these people. Explain how they live their lives without identification. 82-T/A [At Work] SEP 02, 07:00 PM This is getting ridiculous. There are three things required to REGISTER to vote in all states: 1 - Mailing Address 2 - A drivers license, social security card, or a U.S. Passport is required 3 - Proof of U.S. Citizenship (U.S. Passport, Social Security card, or birth certificate) If someone can't meet these three requirements, they are not eligible to vote. So why would actually bringing an ID to a polling place somehow disenfranchise people, if they already have to have this information in order to register in the first place? Some states allow an affidavit for #2 if for some reason you can't prove it (only the ultra-liberal states)... but the others require it. BingB SEP 02, 07:26 PM quote Originally posted by Doug85GT: Every quote you posted is a 2nd hand accounting and would be considered hearsay in court.. No. Go read them. They are direct quotes. Do you know the definition of "direct quote"? If these are not direct quotes then there is no such thing anywhere in the media. BingB SEP 02, 07:38 PM quote Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]: This is getting ridiculous. There are three things required to REGISTER to vote in all states: 1 - Mailing Address 2 - A drivers license, social security card, or a U.S. Passport is required 3 - Proof of U.S. Citizenship (U.S. Passport, Social Security card, or birth certificate) This is not true in all states. Usually all you have to do to prove citizenship is sign an oath that you are a citizen. Doug85GT SEP 02, 08:11 PM quote Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]: This is getting ridiculous. There are three things required to REGISTER to vote in all states: 1 - Mailing Address 2 - A drivers license, social security card, or a U.S. Passport is required 3 - Proof of U.S. Citizenship (U.S. Passport, Social Security card, or birth certificate) If someone can't meet these three requirements, they are not eligible to vote. So why would actually bringing an ID to a polling place somehow disenfranchise people, if they already have to have this information in order to register in the first place? Some states allow an affidavit for #2 if for some reason you can't prove it (only the ultra-liberal states)... but the others require it. It is actually more stupid than that. Fred is saying that people registered to vote without an ID and are being denied the ability to vote because they can't show one at the polling place. Somewhere in the country is a population of people living without any identification but somehow manage to still vote in elections. cliffw SEP 03, 02:32 AM quote Originally posted by BingB: This is not true in all states. Usually all you have to do to prove citizenship is sign an oath that you are a citizen. What about the other two things mandated ? cliffw SEP 03, 02:34 AM quote Originally posted by Doug85GT: Somewhere in the country is a population of people living without any identification but somehow manage to still vote in elections. They still manage to get government cheese also. cliffw SEP 04, 06:02 PM That tired "Minority Oppression" excuse was proven false after Major League Baseball canceled the 2021 MLB All Star game, and the MLB draft in Georgia due to new claimed restrictive minority voting rules. A big loss to the Georgia economy. Minority votes were higher than ever in the aftermath.