the WHOLE THING IS A FRAUD NY JUDGE (Page 7/8)
cliffw OCT 19, 11:53 AM

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Originally posted by rinselberg:
Trump wasn't just advertising his properties for sale. The Trump Organization was making representations to lenders and insurers about the value of his properties. The prosecutors have provided evidence that the Trump Organization inflated their representations of these properties' values in ways that the judge has categorized as fraudulent in the State of New York, based on the laws and regulations that are intended to regulate real estate and commerce in the State of New York.



Again rinselberg, really ?

Give us some freddy toasted facts.
jdv OCT 19, 11:54 AM
Let me put it another way. Joe ran for office as being qualified to run the country. He has failed in every way. Is this fraud? YES IT IS
ray b OCT 19, 11:58 AM

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Originally posted by olejoedad:


The banks accepted the valuations and Trump met the terms of the loans given by the banks.

There is no fraud.

This is government overreach for political gain by a political party.

You are so blind



the blind will not see
evidence is in no matter

he is already guilty of the frauds

the trial is ONLY to set the amount he will pay

question is can he pay the amount the court sets after the trial

better then nixon now
and getting better every day
orange man in an orange jumpsuit soon

so who is the Gop candidate if the orange is in jail/prison ?

marg trailer-park green ?
bobobet the rotten porker ?
the raygun haired kiddie guy ?
Rmony ?
JJ ?
others ?
williegoat OCT 19, 11:59 AM

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Originally posted by olejoedad:


The banks accepted the valuations and Trump met the terms of the loans given by the banks.

There is no fraud.

This is government overreach for political gain by a political party.

You are so blind



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Originally posted by jdv:

Let me put it another way. Joe ran for office as being qualified to run the country. He has failed in every way. Is this fraud? YES IT IS



If you are old enough to know who this is, you are old enough to know the truth.
rinselberg OCT 19, 03:41 PM
Arthur F. Engoron is the judge presiding over this civil case in the State of New York.

I have discovered a veritable treasure trove of information about the singular trajectory of Justice Engoron, which has taken him all the way from his childhood home in Queens, to a seat on the Supreme Court of the State of New York.

Here are some lesser known tidbits of Engoron "lore" that will intrigue anyone who's been casually following news reports about this case.

As an undergraduate student at Columbia University, Engoron particularly liked earning money as a "cabbie"... a taxicab driver.

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"I loved the freedom, the instant cash, getting to meet people, learning how to drive like a maniac without being caught."



He definitely "had the beat."

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Engoron spent seven years teaching piano and pounding out the rhythm on a rocker's drum set as a working percussionist.



He once drew an unkind comparison between New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg and Richard Nixon.

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During his time on the bench, Engoron took a hard line against the administration of New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg, ordering the mayor to release a report about the city's $2.3 billion 911 call system in 2012. In a sharply-worded ruling, Engoron compared Bloomberg's attempt to suppress the report to former President Richard Nixon's maneuvering during the Watergate scandal, ABC News reported at the time.



Judge Engoron... just when you think you've got him "pegged," he finds another way to surprise you!

"Meet the New York judge deciding the fate of Trump's business empire"
Peter Charalambous for ABC News; October 3, 2023.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/a...s/story?id=103606841

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rinselberg OCT 20, 09:00 AM

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Originally posted by olejoedad:
The banks accepted the valuations and Trump met the terms of the loans given by the banks. There is no fraud. This is government overreach for political gain by a political party.


"Dem's (pun?) the breaks."

Is "olejoedad" looking forward to a successful appeal from Trump's lawyers that will overturn the judgement?

Or does he expect that "the fix is in" at all higher levels of the justice system, and so the appeals court victory that Trump so richly deserves will never be awarded to him?

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ray b OCT 20, 09:13 AM
what is very very scary is the blind level of belief and empowerment

they really do not care about crimes or plots to over throw the government

the rump is the chosen one who can do no wrong in their eyes

they do not even care that he was chosen by PUTIN
olejoedad OCT 20, 09:49 AM

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Originally posted by ray b:

what is very very scary is the blind level of belief and empowerment

they really do not care about crimes or plots to over throw the government

the rump is the chosen one who can do no wrong in their eyes

they do not even care that he was chosen by PUTIN



Can you back up your last sentence, or is it more opinion?
ray b OCT 20, 10:04 AM

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Originally posted by olejoedad:


Can you back up your last sentence, or is it more opinion?



like in watergate and every thing else also

follow the money
hint russian money

money is truth
olejoedad OCT 20, 11:13 AM

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Originally posted by ray b:


like in watergate and every thing else also

follow the money
hint russian money

money is truth



rayb does not have any information to back up his claim, so he deflects. ✓

You wouldn't know the truth if you put it in a pipe and smoked it.