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MidEngineManiac
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MAR 22, 08:28 AM
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williegoat
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MAR 22, 12:29 PM
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He is standing up for something he believes in. Something most will never do.
Right or wrong, he is taking action, instead of tweeting about how much he cares.
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Zeb
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MAR 22, 02:42 PM
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The young man seems never to have heard the phrase "Discretion is the better part of valor."
As a person with -zero- applicable training and -zero- useful skills, he's NOT going to help. He's going to get in the way.
I admire his courage, I really do. But travelling to a war zone to help people whose language you (apparently) don't speak, really limits your ability to help.
He says,
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| quote | | it’s an opportunity where I can excel in life and where, if I can save someone else, I’m going to jump in, |
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That's an awful lot of "I"'s. At that point is it more about them, or him?
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82-T/A [At Work]
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MAR 23, 08:28 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by williegoat:
He is standing up for something he believes in. Something most will never do.
Right or wrong, he is taking action, instead of tweeting about how much he cares. |
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My thoughts as well. I don't even know where to start on all the Ukraine flags and #IStandWithUkraine that we're seeing everywhere. I am actually starting to see Ukrainian flags (made in China) all over my neighborhood. Homes that never had an American flag are now putting up a flag post on their home so they can mount a Ukrainian flag. What's that tell you?
| quote | Originally posted by Zeb:
The young man seems never to have heard the phrase "Discretion is the better part of valor."
As a person with -zero- applicable training and -zero- useful skills, he's NOT going to help. He's going to get in the way.
That's an awful lot of "I"'s. At that point is it more about them, or him? |
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I don't completely disagree with you, but I think if he does make it over there, they'll likely use him to help support transporting munitions, or assisting at a hospital or something else. I can't criticize someone for wanting to help or wanting to do *SOMETHING*.
What really does infuriate me, as I mentioned above... is all the fake bull **** we see from the liberal left. There's plenty of wars going on around the world, but they've picked up on this one because... I dunno... the media has run with it and they think it maybe fits into their political ideology ? All the "#IStandWithUkraine" stuff really, really annoys me. I mean, I can't express this enough. I don't disagree with wanting to support / help Ukraine, but I'm tired of the fake stuff.
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rinselberg
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MAR 23, 12:18 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
What really does infuriate me, as I mentioned above... is all the fake bull **** we see from the liberal left. There's plenty of wars going on around the world, but they've picked up on this one because... I dunno... the media has run with it and they think it maybe fits into their political ideology ? All the "#IStandWithUkraine" stuff really, really annoys me. I mean, I can't express this enough. I don't disagree with wanting to support / help Ukraine, but I'm tired of the fake stuff. |
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Nothing to see here folks. Don't slow traffic down to gape. It's only the most ominous war in Europe since Adolf Hitler blew his brains out below the streets of Berlin. Mariupol--oh that'll buff right out. Chernobyl and other nuclear installations in Ukraine... remote international monitoring taken offline.
"Good one."
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82-T/A [At Work]
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MAR 23, 02:18 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by rinselberg:
Nothing to see here folks. Don't slow traffic down to gape. It's only the most ominous war in Europe since Adolf Hitler blew his brains out below the streets of Berlin. Mariupol--oh that'll buff right out. Chernobyl and other nuclear installations in Ukraine... remote international monitoring taken offline.
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Want to make sure you don't misunderstand me. Unlike Sourmash, I don't like Putin. I want him to fail. I don't hate the Russian people, but I hate Communism and I don't like authoritarianism. I also support Ukraine and believe that NATO, the UN, and the U.S. should have done more.
- I also believe that if Trump was in office, we wouldn't be witnessing this right now.
- I also believe that Ukraine is able to defend itself in part BECAUSE Trump gave Ukraine weapons (SAM, anti-tank, etc.), when no one else would.
- I also believe that if Biden had actually done something a YEAR ago, when Putin started moving troops on the border, we /also/ wouldn't be in this situation we are in.
But... what bothers me is all the "fake" nonsense. Ignorant people who basically 2 months ago, had no idea what Ukraine was other than some random here-say about Hunter Biden's laptop (which we know is true). I don't like the fact that people are putting up flags that 2 months ago they had no idea about, or could have cared less about if it was Trump who was in office. Would all the people on the left be flying Ukrainian flags in their neighborhood here in the U.S. if Trump was president and Putin was invading then? I don't think they would.
At this point, Putin is getting desperate, but I still don't believe he's going to launch nuclear weapons for the sheer fact it would mean the total destruction of his country... and to some extent, that of others. I'm angry because all of this could have been avoided... but since Joe Biden is senile, everything his administration does is by committee, which is made up of people from San Francisco, Chicago, NYC, and Washington D.C. That is, they don't make decisions until the last minute because they're concerned about politics... not about actually leading. If Biden wasn't a confused old senile man, and actually knew what was going on, he might actually have decided something.
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rinselberg
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MAR 23, 03:02 PM
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I don't think the intel about Russia prepositioning its military to move on Ukraine came to Biden until the end of 3Q or start of 4Q 2021. I don't think it was happening before that. So more like just 6 months ago when the situation started to look imminently threatening—but not an entire year ago.
Biden was at the Vatican, meeting with Pope Francis on October 29, 2021. On that same Presidential visit to Europe, but without any publicity, Biden met with representatives from Italy, Germany, France and the U.K. So, along with the U.S., NATO's "Big Five." That meeting was to get everyone on the same page (as much as possible) about imposing the "Mother" of all international economic sanctions regimes against Russia, if Putin launched an invasion of Ukraine.
I don't think it would have made sense to start flowing military weapons, supplies and training into Ukraine on an accelerated schedule at that point, when the focus was on trying to draw Putin into serious negotiations about a whole range of international; security-related issues, including, but not limited to Ukraine. I think that would have triggered Putin to launch a military offensive against Ukraine even sooner than he did.
I don't see anything here that makes Trump's "star" shine any brighter, in terms of Russia and Ukraine. Even if what's happening to the Biden administration's paint job is something that is not going to "buff right out." A moot point at best, between Biden and Trump, and between Democrats and Republicans.[This message has been edited by rinselberg (edited 03-23-2022).]
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82-T/A [At Work]
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MAR 23, 03:46 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by rinselberg:
I don't think the intel about Russia prepositioning its military to move on Ukraine came to Biden until the end of 3Q or start of 4Q 2021. I don't think it was happening before that. So more like just 6 months ago when the situation started to look imminently threatening—but not an entire year ago.
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Oh Rinse... come on man.
There are news articles about this all over the internet from March of 2021. How can you even say that? We've been tracking this publicly since way before then.
WSJ: Russian Troop Movements on Ukraine Border Test Biden Administration
From March of 2021: https://www.wsj.com/article...stration-11617230084
(28,000 troops by this point, up from 6,000 earlier in the month)
CNN: US and other NATO members pledge support to Ukraine while walking fine line with Russia
From April of 2021 - https://www.cnn.com/2021/04...ne-russia/index.html
(I guess we didn't /actually/ end up supporting them)
Reuters: Russian force on Ukraine border larger than any time since 2014, U.S. says
From April 8 of 2021: https://www.reuters.com/art...is-usa-idUSKBN2BV2Z3
(Already 30k troops on the border at this point)
There's more... let me know if you need more.
And honestly, the US Government knows about this before the media does... so, we probably knew it by February. Actually, here's an article from February of 2021 on a Ukraine intel website: https://www.ukrinform.net/r...ilitary-machine.html
... basically talking about what would come over a year later.
Also very interesting, I found China making amends in February with India on their disputed border, and China conceding to India ... and now we know how important the BRICS agreement is turning out to be. None of the BRICS members (obviously duh with Russia) have chosen to denounce Russia's invasion of Ukraine.
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rinselberg
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MAR 23, 04:20 PM
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"My bad."
I had carried out a quick search online, to see how far that went back (the Russian military buildup close to Ukraine) but somehow I muffed it. I didn't pick up anything before October of 2021. My Quality Control Group (of neurons) is looking into what happened.
That's all I'm saying though. That the first public reports of a Russian military buildup close to Ukraine go all the way back to an entire year ago.
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82-T/A [At Work]
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MAR 23, 04:31 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by rinselberg:
"My bad."
I had carried out a quick search online, to see how far that went back (the Russian military buildup close to Ukraine) but somehow I muffed it. I didn't pick up anything before October of 2021. My Quality Control Group (of neurons) is looking into what happened.
That's all I'm saying though. That the first public reports of a Russian military buildup close to Ukraine go all the way back to an entire year ago. |
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We're good.
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