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MidEngineManiac
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MAR 24, 12:01 AM
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82-T/A [At Work]
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MAR 24, 07:07 AM
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That was pretty awesome, thanks for that MEM.
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Wichita
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MAR 24, 04:42 PM
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Be careful. Because in Canada you can claim you been diagnose with Climate Change illness. That will be the new pandemic for the left.
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MidEngineManiac
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MAR 25, 10:00 PM
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olejoedad
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MAR 25, 10:03 PM
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As you are a citizen of Canada, you are what the title of this thread says.....OWNED.
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randye
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MAR 26, 01:12 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by olejoedad:
As you are a citizen of Canada, you are what the title of this thread says.....OWNED.
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He is a subject of the Canadian government.
Not a citizen.
It's an important distinction.
...and Yes, You're right. Subjects are chattel of their government.[This message has been edited by randye (edited 03-26-2022).]
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rinselberg
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MAR 26, 01:02 PM
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| quote | | The cornerstone of human rights protection in Canada is the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms. The Charter forms part of Canada's Constitution and came into being on April 17, 1982, with the signature of the Constitution Act, 1982. |
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Canadian Museum for Human Rights
https://humanrights.ca/stor...ion%20Act%2C%201982.
The Constitution Act of 1982 starts with the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms. Here's the text:
https://laws-lois.justice.g...emocratic%20society.
That's from the Government of Canada Justice Laws Website.
https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/
I think there must be any number of analytical comparisons between the Canadian Charter and the U.S. Bill of Rights to be found online: here's the first one that I found:
"The Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms and the United States Bill of Rights: A Comparison"
Paul Bender, for the McGill University Law Journal; September, 1983.
https://lawjournal.mcgill.c...rights-a-comparison/
Which reminds me of a sophomoric joke I used to hear frequently from someone of a certain temperament; to wit:
| quote | Knock, Knock.
Who's there?
Bender.
Bender who?
Bender over and kiss my ass. |
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That's neither here nor there, but if I were a Canadian, I wouldn't give much credence to this "gaslighting" from certain Pennock's forum members who are to the south of Canada's southernmost borders with the United States. Especially from the one that over a period of the last "umpteen" years has used this forum to reveal himself as an online voice having about the same intellect and probity as a rabid dog. I would look in other directions for specifics on this line of inquiry. Including my own experience—if I were a Canadian.
So that's "one" Paul Bender, almost 40 years ago, in 1983. This is how he ended:
| quote | As with other basic questions about the meaning of the [Canadian] Charter, answers here must await the course of future Canadian judicial decision-making. That process of constitutional interpretation through the judiciary has taken place in the United States over a period of almost two hundred years. It is unlikely... that the process will ever be fully completed.
The U.S. Constitution is a constantly evolving document—a feature that is a source both of great strength for U.S. constitutional principles, and of continuous controversy. Although the evolution of basic constitutional human rights principles may proceed somewhat more swiftly in Canada (which has the experience of the U.S., other nations and the international community [to look upon,]—as well as its own experience with national and provincial civil rights legislation. The process seems almost certain to be one that will be evolutionary in nature over a substantial period of time.
[Ergo,] the adoption of the Canadian Charter represents the beginning, rather than the culmination, of a system of developing constitutional rights that will likely be an important feature of life and government in Canada for many years to come. |
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Where this Paul Bender said "The U.S. Constitution is a constantly evolving document...", I read it as the understanding of the U.S. Constitution is subject to evolution over time, and has demonstrably evolved already in the more than 230 years since it was adopted in 1789.
I'm only offering up this "Paul Bender" as an example of what could be found online. If I were going to enlarge my efforts, vis-à-vis this particular topicality, I would look to more current and recent sources, as sustenance for any further ruminations and bloviations of this kind.[This message has been edited by rinselberg (edited 03-26-2022).]
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randye
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MAR 26, 05:34 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by rinselberg:
The cornerstone of human rights protection in Canada is the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms. The Charter forms part of Canada's Constitution and came into being on April 17, 1982, with the signature of the Constitution Act, 1982.
I think there must be any number of analytical comparisons between the Canadian Charter and the U.S. Bill of Rights to be found online:
I wouldn't give much credence to this "gaslighting" from certain Pennock's forum members who are to the south of Canada's southernmost borders with the United States.
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That's exactly the kind of ignorance and dipshittery we have come to expect from LEFTISTS.
How about an "analytical comparison" like a MONARCH signing her proclamation / permission for Canada to even have rights.
Now tell us all what king or queen granted their permission for the United States to have a Constitution.
Tell us all why the United States Constitution begins with WE THE PEOPLE.
Then tell us all why HER MAJESTY'S 1982 PERMISSION for Canada to have a "Charter" says:
"ELIZABETH THE SECOND
By The Grace Of God Of The United Kingdom, Canada And Her Other Realms And Territories, Queen, Head Of The Commonwealth, Defender Of The Faith."...
Our Loving Subjects and all others whom these Presents may concern are hereby required to take notice and govern themselves accordingly.
By Her Majesty's Command...
Tell us all why that Canadian Charter's very FIRST article says that Canadians have only those rights as the government allows them:
"The Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms guarantees the rights and freedoms set out in it subject only to such reasonable limits prescribed by law as can be demonstrably justified in a free and democratic society.
The depth of ignorance of you Leftists, even on the most rudimentary and basic civics issues, is truly astonishing and pathetic.
Maybe you'll find another worthless cut & paste article from another Leftist whack-job to make false comparisons and then you can "Bender over and gaslight" yourself.[This message has been edited by randye (edited 03-27-2022).]
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MidEngineManiac
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MAR 26, 05:51 PM
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If you want to go down that road....
How many restrictions (laws or "policies") does the USA have in contravention of the 2nd amendment ? Nowhere do I read "Right to bear arms except...."
How many on free speech ect (1st amendment) ?, again nowhere do I read "except....."
4th amendment ? What a joke....There is that "except" again...
Face it, there IS no freedom or rights anywhere in North America, we are nothing but free-range slaves on a tax farm, just with some more inclined to resist than others.[This message has been edited by MidEngineManiac (edited 03-26-2022).]
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randye
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MAR 26, 06:30 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by MidEngineManiac:
If you want to go down that road....
How many restrictions (laws or "policies") does the USA have in contravention of the 2nd amendment ? Nowhere do I read "Right to bear arms except...."
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Sure.
Let's "go down that road".
Tell us all about your Canadian equivalent to the United States Constitution's 2nd Amendment.
I'll wait down at the end of that very short road.....
When you get done with that we can talk about THIS: https://laws-lois.justice.g...-46/section-319.html
Our U.S. Constitution forbids our government from tyranny like that but Canadian subjects shall speak only as they are allowed and commanded.[This message has been edited by randye (edited 03-26-2022).]
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