Goin fishin for a petition (Page 1/2)
WonderBoy MAR 26, 08:26 PM
Following The Money

Who's in favor of a state by state campaign to get our federal government(s) to publicly disclose ALL money transfers as to where all public funding goes as pertaining to public/emergency/economy-boosting spending bills? Example: Build Back Better.

It should not take investigative journalism nor Freedom of Information Act requests to bring transfers of public monies to light. All should be made public in REAL-TIME.
  1. Every State
  2. Every County
  3. Every Town
  4. Every Company
  5. Every NGO
  6. Every Union
  7. Etc.

ACCOUNTABILITY. Good HONEST financially responsible Government. That's the ticket. Sure, there are some gov websites, but don't show hardly any of the "trickle down" details/data. (*Prove me wrong*)

After all, what's there to hide? Is this money "Shovel Ready?" As The 44th President Barack "No one's more Irish" Obama would say. ("Shovel-ready was not as shovel-ready as we expected.")


"My" governor (D) is saying we have a surplus, even though help wanted signs are all over the place. State income has tanked since lockdowns and unemployment/mandates. These (D) a$$'s know it's an election year and they're raiding the bank to secure it. (COVID relief money shift, Fraudster's that they are)
Feb 9th 2022:


I was IN THE SH*T while these people were doing JACK-SH*T, yet they get a damn raise??? Whiskey Tango Foxtrot
Gotta keep those Public Union war-chest$ stocked for the midterms. (Dems, it's what they DO)

It's a reelection year for Richard Blumenthal (D*ck Poundyourhole).






It's time to pinch off the teat of the federal governments' bailing out of these corrupt/bankrupt Democrat run States.



Something's got to give. Where to start?

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rinselberg MAR 27, 03:43 AM
I wonder if there isn't already a petition of this kind that is already online for people to examine and possibly sign onto. It sounds like something that might already exist in some online repository or database of petitions. But I don't know exactly where or how to look.

I wonder if this is something you have been discussing with some of your friends, or maybe some particular group that you are active within.

I wonder if there are any Democrats at the local level, or anywhere up to the national level that would sign on to this kind of petition or support it in some other way.

On the face of it, I can't say it's a bad idea.
randye MAR 27, 06:29 AM

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Originally posted by WonderBoy:


It's a reelection year for Richard Blumenthal (D*ck Poundyourhole).





"Da Nang Dick"

WHY do people in your state keep voting for that lying, STOLEN VALOR, piece of crap?
ray b MAR 27, 11:13 AM
why not public records for all tax transactions

ie what anyone pays as income tax
should be eazy to check

so the rich guys like trump can't lie about their taxes
and if they cheat it is eazy to catch them

why are public transactions ever secreted

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olejoedad MAR 27, 11:52 AM
Info from the taxpayer to the government is private information.

Government expenditures of the taxpayer's dollars should be public, as it is our money being spent.
ray b MAR 27, 12:02 PM

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Originally posted by olejoedad:

Info from the taxpayer to the government is private information.

Government expenditures of the taxpayer's dollars should be public, as it is our money being spent.



why there are far more BS lies and deception on the tax paying side
so why only track the spending by the government and not the taxing side ?

afraid to learn the truth about who paid what ?

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williegoat MAR 27, 12:25 PM
Elected officials, maybe, but no one has a right to my personal information. See the forth amendment.

Regarding government spending, other than exceptions for national security and personal privacy (and these need to be carefully defined and limited), we should have the right to know how our tax money is spent.
olejoedad MAR 27, 01:08 PM
Eh, why let a little thing like the Constitution get in the way, right?
williegoat MAR 27, 01:38 PM
The Constitution of the United States seems to be another thing that separates the right from the left in the U.S.A.

If you go back to the origins of the political use of the terms “left” and “right”, around the same time as the establishment of our Constitution, the right supported the government in the form of the king and the left supported the transformation of the government in the form of the French revolution.

Now, the right supports the government in the form of the U.S. Constitution while the left calls for the fundamental transformation of the U.S. government into a feudal society.


In case anyone is confused, this is huge iron "E"

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WonderBoy MAR 27, 08:41 PM

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Originally posted by rinselberg:

I wonder if there isn't already a petition of this kind that is already online for people to examine and possibly sign onto. It sounds like something that might already exist in some online repository or database of petitions. But I don't know exactly where or how to look.


It will take harassing/lobbying/spamming the crap out of the state Congress(wo)men <?sic?> to make it happen. A petition probably won't matter.

Oh I'm sure there are databases with info logged where a fraction of these monies went to. Probably outdated old-school databases running on an old Novell NetWare server well past it's prime. That would be used as an excuse to get more $$$ from the Fed teat to update them, or NOT update them ("it will take years, decades" they'll say as to why this wouldn't be possible). As in many states excuses for having outdated DMV software/websites.


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I wonder if there are any Democrats at the local level, or anywhere up to the national level that would sign on to this kind of petition or support it in some other way.


Highly doubtful. Establishment "D's", that's their bread-n-butter, SAME with establishment "R's", when it's not their money, they will spend it and more so.

We're a country that spends so much on education $$$'s per student, yet most are dumb as bricks. Since I'm a blue collar guy that gets around, contractors can't get young people into the trades. I hear it from ALL I come across. They're being groomed to be lazy or dependent on gov $$$ for college to obtain a degree in a field that will rely on NGO funding (Fed $$$'s) for them to survive. PHYSICAL LABOR JOBS are ESSENTIAL! Automation can't replace everything (another thread topic entirely).

Or are they (The NWO) relying on those coming from south of the border to fill that need? as they have been more and more.

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On the face of it, I can't say it's a bad idea.


This isn't just a "D" thang, but a "R" thang also. Even in my post I would hard press the "D's". Because I see it here being abused. And because I get around house-2-house biz-2-biz in my job, I pickup how some small businesses were denied COVID relief. Drive by some now, closed. Building for sale. Locked Down, now Locked Out.

"Re-Imagine" it. Think of it like the national election map. You see an interactive map of the United States. Select your Economic Stimulus Bill/Recovery Act of choice. You 'click' on a state, it will show the total of monies delivered/allocated to that state so far of the $330 billion (or whatever gov give-away boosting program). When you select the state, it will then break down where it went. NOT just show the State Treasury Dept. :
  1. SEIU LOCAL #XXXX
  2. NGO For child gender studies
  3. NGO For dog breeding studies
  4. EnerJet Charging Station equipment/Installation (statewide contract)
  5. Xecto Aerial/underground power line burial (statewide contract)
  6. SkyTower land and water wind turbine tower installation (statewide contract)

Each item will also include website of company, including CEO/CFO/CIO contact info. Along with total breakdowns of spending. Materials/Survey Fees/Permits/Employee/Labor costs.(employee/labor costs will just have totals, keeping per employee monies private only available by audit, with MAYBE a number total of employees involved)

Then breakdown by Town:
  1. Bob's Restaurant
  2. Julie's Day Care
  3. Dick & Jane's home cleaning
  4. Etc

And monies left over to the state will sit in an account for interest growth or what have you (I'm no accountant). Not to be moved for pet projects or FAILED State sponsored social programs. Like in the private sector, they fail, they need to make cuts or get rid of it if it can't be sustained.

You know rinse, that these monies never FULLY get to where they're supposed/intended to go. A lot of it slips through the cracks never to be discovered where it went. Even those who do get it, some really don't need it.

This would be a good start on showing who would vote for it and who wouldn't. This is the 21st century. Broadband is speedy. Data is in REAL-TIME for a lot of things having to do with financial transaction. There is no reason the public can't easily access this info.