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82-T/A [At Work]
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MAY 25, 01:27 PM
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This chart is interesting (see below). The caption is kind of bull **** … school shootings haven’t risen steeply since 2010. They actually rose steeply in 2018 (2017 was no higher than 2006).
So what happened in 2018? It’s “pre-pandemic” … so I don’t think we can blame the pandemic. It also doesn’t seem to have anything to do with President Obama, Trump, or Biden specifically. The economy was on fire in 2018… and the pandemic didn’t really affect us in the United States until March of 2019. So what’s changed in 2018? It doesn't appear to correlate at all with gun sales either. There was a jump in 2020, which coincides with an increase in gun crime in 2020... but none of the other years match up. You could say there were two things at play:
1 - Biden becoming president and people looking to buy guns for fear their rights would be taken away.
2 - Gun crime going up as the economy was reeling from the pandemic and a lot of people unemployed.
Thoughts?
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williegoat
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MAY 25, 02:02 PM
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I just sat down from my bicycle ride, so take this for what it's worth: 2018 was the first election after Hillary lost. We have been on a two year cycle of "crazy white boys" and summer riots ever since.
I suppose that is just a coincidence, but my theory is more substantial than the theory that "One guy lost in Georgia therefore the whole world hates Trump, Nya, Nya, Nya!"
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Jake_Dragon
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MAY 25, 02:29 PM
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In 1979 or there about they stopped spanking kids in school, then they said you shouldn't spank your kids at home and shamed you into not using corporal punishment.
Those kids had children and now the children of those kids are going insane because they are told they can be anything and then they find out they cant.
Bulling has never stopped and now its ignored both at school and at home. Can't fix it.
Punishment is no longer a deterrent, this creates these monsters as they are not capable of dealing with what is going on.
They are broken and no one is paying attention.
When there is no joy in life, when you have no goal, when you are told you are special but so is everyone else.
Growing up in limbo, passed from one teacher to the next until you age out or... well you know...
Give it a minute, the government will fix it. <-- sarcasm.
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2.5
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MAY 25, 03:04 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Jake_Dragon:
In 1979 or there about they stopped spanking kids in school, then they said you shouldn't spank your kids at home and shamed you into not using corporal punishment.
Those kids had children and now the children of those kids are going insane because they are told they can be anything and then they find out they cant.
Bulling has never stopped and now its ignored both at school and at home. Can't fix it.
Punishment is no longer a deterrent, this creates these monsters as they are not capable of dealing with what is going on.
They are broken and no one is paying attention.
When there is no joy in life, when you have no goal, when you are told you are special but so is everyone else.
Growing up in limbo, passed from one teacher to the next until you age out or... well you know...
Give it a minute, the government will fix it. <-- sarcasm. |
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Add to that abortion, I can't imagina anyone actually thinking kids don't learn that their lives and everyone else's are meaningless due to it.
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RWDPLZ
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MAY 25, 03:04 PM
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Look closely at all the mass shooters. What do they have in common? Almost all had mental health problems, and most were already known to their communities and/or law enforcement.
It's a mental health crisis. Why can't we solve mental health issues? Mental health isn't an exact science.
Why wasn't it an issue before?
1. We used to lock up psychos in mental health facilities. These facilities have been closing and going away all over the country, and you have now a record number of crazies just walking the streets, as these facilities are not profitable, because these problems are not currently cure-able.
2. We're now attempting to treat mental health conditions almost solely with medications, while letting them just run around un or under-supervised. What happens when they go off their meds (voluntarily, or involuntarily by losing health care coverage)? They revert to psychotic states. Pharmaceutical and healthcare companies want them all medicated or over-medicated, primarily because it's profitable. "Follow the money"
What's the solution?
Either lock them up again, or kill them all. We don't kill them because of religious beliefs of the sanctity of life. None of these people would have had access to firearms if they were locked up in state hospitals where they should have been, or been able to walk around freely killing people with guns, knives, or whatever.
Unless or until medical science can progress to the point of correcting these conditions, this is the only real solution nobody wants to talk about, and nobody can profit from.
Also: Gun-Free Zones. Attackers keep targeting these places because they're guaranteed soft targets where they're likely to encounter the least resistance and end up with the highest body counts. Any politician that has fought to keep these restrictions in place are the ones that are complicit in these deaths. Armed security at schools would absolutely deter would-be shooters.
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2.5
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MAY 25, 03:09 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by RWDPLZ:
2. We're now attempting to treat mental health conditions almost solely with medications, while letting them just run around un or under-supervised. What happens when they go off their meds (voluntarily, or involuntarily by losing health care coverage)? They revert to psychotic states. Pharmaceutical and healthcare companies want them all medicated or over-medicated, primarily because it's profitable. "Follow the money"
Also: Gun-Free Zones. Attackers keep targeting these places because they're guaranteed soft targets where they're likely to encounter the least resistance and end up with the highest body counts. Any politician that has fought to keep these restrictions in place are the ones that are complicit in these deaths. Armed security at schools would absolutely deter would-be shooters. |
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Meanwhile lets "legalize all the drugs" is pushed.
Yep, and politicians can use this stuff to their advantage driving an agenda they'd like. Unarmed drugged taxpaying servants perhaps.
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2.5
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MAY 25, 03:21 PM
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Something should be understood. Something that is the opposite of the media's story and agenda.
No matter how many "shootings' occur, wherever they may be, and whomever the victim. It does not change our right to defend ourselves with whatever means we deem necessary, scary looking black guns with efficient features that make it easier for grandma to use effectively, these are not the problem. Efficiently impacting where they aim makes a gun safer. Joe said shoot your shotgun into the air to scare them, THAT is negligent.
The shooter in buffalo knew teh NY laws and knew few would be armed, and if they were they were limited (by law) to 10 rounds in a magazine. Like RWDPLZ said about Gun free zones. Basically it is fish in a barrel. No thanks I'd rather not be those fish.[This message has been edited by 2.5 (edited 05-25-2022).]
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williegoat
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MAY 25, 03:33 PM
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Obviously one has to be mentally ill to commit such an evil act, but here is something else to think about:
The Buffalo and Uvalde murderers were both 18 years old. From the age of 12 to 16 (think about the influences on your life during those years) America was full of hope and promise. There was world peace and a booming economy. When they were just about ready to enter adulthood, the door was slammed in their face; Covid, war, a devastated economy.
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randye
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MAY 25, 04:49 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by williegoat:
Obviously one has to be mentally ill to commit such an evil act,.....
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Speaking of mentally ill, here is "Sick Sonofabitch Beto" standing on top of the still warm bodies of the children to pull a political stunt at the news conference updating people about the status of the victims and the investigation in Texas.
Leftists gotta Leftist[This message has been edited by randye (edited 05-25-2022).]
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Patrick
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MAY 25, 04:53 PM
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Why are these school massacres only occurring in the US?
Other countries have all dealt with COVID.
Other counties are facing economic uncertainty.
Other countries have politicians that segments of the population detest.
Other countries have "spoiled" youth who've never had to face corporal punishment.
Other countries have had a whole generation exposed to first-person shooter games.
Other countries have mentally sick individuals living on the streets.
Other countries have rampant drug use, both legal and otherwise.
Other countries have legalized abortion. (Only mention that bizarre point as it was brought up Here.)
So I repeat... Why are these school massacres only occurring in the US?
It's well past time to be addressing the elephant in the room... far too easy access to firearms in the US.
No, I'm not suggesting that your gun(s) be taken away... but damn, at least have the rules and regulations tightened up in regards to who can legally purchase them.[This message has been edited by Patrick (edited 05-25-2022).]
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