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TheDigitalAlchemist JUL 08, 01:40 PM
When someone is ticked off enough, or determined enough, or batshot crazy enough, I guess they'll make what they need to make their point...

I'm almost surprised there aren't more of this type of thing. Especially since much of the world was locked up/cooped up for so long...

"It’s a good thing guns are very strictly controlled in Japan. Otherwise Abe might be even more dead this morning."


https://www.dailymail.co.uk...ister-dies-shot.html
Sucks.
rinselberg JUL 08, 02:38 PM

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...Japan’s firearms law states that, in principle, guns are not permitted in the country. There are exceptions for guns used in hunting, but the process of getting a license is time-consuming and expensive, so very few people go through the hassle.

A person must pass 12 steps before purchasing a firearm, starting with a gun-safety class and then passing a written exam administered three times a year. A doctor must sign off on the gun buyer’s physical and mental health. Other steps include an extensive background check and a police inspection of the gun safe and ammunition locker required for storing firearms and bullets. . . .

In 2021, there were 10 shootings in Japan that contributed to death, injury or property damage, according to the National Police Agency. Of those gun-related episodes, one person was killed and four others were injured. The figures do not include accidents or suicides.

Most of the roughly 192,000 licensed firearms in the country are shotguns and hunting rifles. By comparison, in the United States, where most firearms are not registered, the number of guns in civilian hands is by some estimates close to 400 million.


"Assassination Shocks a Nearly Gun-Free Japan"
Daisuke Wakabayashi, Ben Dooley and Hikari Hida for the New York Times; July 8, 2022.
https://www.nytimes.com/202...abe-murder-guns.html

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RWDPLZ JUL 08, 02:56 PM
Guns in Japan are basically restricted to the JSDF and American occupation forces. This nutjob actually made his own guns. You can tell by the 'craftsmanship' he wasn't all there:

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Guy appears to be a NEET (Not in Education, Employment, or Training), probably like the deranged guy who burned down the animation studio KyoAni a few years ago (another good example of you don't need guns to kill a lot of people)
jdv JUL 08, 03:20 PM
They are right GHOST GUNS will be the destruction us all.
sarcasm in use

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2.5 JUL 08, 04:25 PM
They say 1 % of the population is accountable for 63 % of all violent crime convictions. The majority of violent crimes are perpetrated by a small number of persistent violent offenders, typically males, characterized by early onset of violent criminality, substance abuse, personality disorders, and nonviolent criminality.
2.5 JUL 08, 04:27 PM

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Originally posted by jdv:

They are right GHOST GUNS will be the destruction us all.



Don't believe hte media hype. History has proven that genocide usually occurs when the populace is not armed.
otakudude JUL 09, 12:19 AM
Now, I'll be the first to admit that I know squat about politics in Japan but lacking any semi-logical rationale from the gunman, the only party that I can see benefiting from Shinzo Abe's assassination is China.

When he was in office, Abe was supporter of a partnership with the United States in defense of Taiwan independence in the face of Imperialistic Chinese aggression and though he was out of office for just under two years now, he was still massively supported and his message carried weight both among the population and Japan's current leadership.

Now, with Abe's assassination, that national support for Taiwanese will likely go up in a puff of smoke and leave the door for Chinese invasion cracked open just that much wider.

There is a political commentator on FB by the name of Tim Pool whose analysis I rather enjoy. Earlier today he posted a commentary about the assassination, how world leaders and media outlets reacted and what it could mean on the world stage going forward and I'll link to that video below. His comments at 13:00 pretty much mirror my own on the subject and the possible motivation behind the attack..

cliffw JUL 09, 08:37 AM

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Originally posted by TheDigitalAlchemist:
When someone is ticked off enough, or determined enough, or batshot crazy enough, I guess they'll make what they need to make their point...

I'm almost surprised there aren't more of this type of thing.



Laughing teens beat elderly Philly man to death with traffic cone, disturbing video shows.

rinselberg JUL 09, 11:08 AM

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Originally posted by 2.5:
Don't believe the media hype. History has proven that genocide usually occurs when the populace is not armed.


What about the NRA and NRA-like hype, that equates regulating the private acquisition of firearms with a government-orchestrated genocide that's about to happen as a conssequence?


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The NRA, Fox News, Fox News (again), Alex Jones, email chains, Joe “the Plumber” Wurzelbacher, Gun Owners of America, etc., all agree that gun control was critical to Hitler’s rise to power. Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership ("America's most aggressive defender of firearms ownership") is built almost exclusively around this notion, popularizing posters of Hitler giving the Nazi salute next to the text: “All in favor of ‘gun control’ raise your right hand.”

In his 1994 book, NRA head Wayne LaPierre dwelled on the Hitler meme at length, writing: “In Germany, Jewish extermination began with the Nazi Weapon Law of 1938, signed by Adolf Hitler.”

And it makes a certain amount of intuitive sense: If you’re going to impose a brutal authoritarian regime on your populace, better to disarm them first so they can’t fight back.

Unfortunately for LaPierre et al., the notion that Hitler confiscated everyone’s guns is mostly bogus. And the ancillary claim that Jews could have stopped the Holocaust with more guns doesn't make any sense at all if you think about it for more than a minute.

University of Chicago law professor Bernard Harcourt explored this myth in depth in a 2004 article published in the Fordham Law Review. . . .


That's the beginning of a column that was published in Salon in 2013.

"The Hitler gun control lie: Gun rights activists who cite the dictator as a reason against gun control have their history dangerously wrong."
Alex Seitz-Wald for Salon; January 11, 2013.
https://www.salon.com/2013/...alking_about_hitler/

That Salon article is based on a larger report that was published in the Fordham Law Review in 2004; to wit:

"On Gun Registration, the NRA, Adolf Hitler, and Nazi Gun Laws: Exploding the Gun Culture Wars..."
Bernard E. Harcourt for the Fordham Law Review; Volume 73, Issue 2, Article 11, 2004.
https://ir.lawnet.fordham.e...cle=4029&context=flr

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Doug85GT JUL 09, 12:14 PM
That is strange. I don't see anyone else mentioning Germany, Hitler or Nazis. A strawman was created just to have a argument to beat up.

Does the rule apply that the first person who invokes Hitler loses the argument when it is done so as a strawman?