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Wichita
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AUG 21, 11:18 PM
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Don't think there is a Deep State? Do you really think everything the government does is to benefit the average person? You don't think they would rig an election? NO!
Well, they rigged the Census.
SHOCKED that the U.S. Census Bureau robbed States who would have gained additional Congressional Seats and billions of Federal Dollar allocations, because if truly counted, those seats and dollars would have been taken away from Blue safe Democrat states and seats. Had to admit it, only after the congressional reapportionments were already done. WOW! What a shocker. 
Oh Well! How about another 87,000 IRS agents then.
THE STORY: (Will get swept under the rug)
In a shocking report, the U.S. Census Bureau recently admitted that it overcounted the populations of eight states and undercounted the populations of six states in the 2020 census.
All but one of the states overcounted is a blue state, and all but one of the undercounted states is red.
Those costly errors will distort congressional representation and the Electoral College. It means that when the Census Bureau reapportioned the House of Representatives, Florida was cheated out of two additional seats it should have gotten; Texas missed out on another seat; Minnesota and Rhode Island each kept a representative they shouldn’t have; and Colorado was awarded a new member of the House it didn’t deserve.
These harmful errors also mean billions in federal funds will be misallocated. Funding for many federal programs is distributed to the states based on population. Overcounted states will now receive a larger share of federal funds than they are entitled to, at the expense of the undercounted states.
The Census Bureau has not explained how it got the 2020 census so wrong. This is particularly troublesome because the bureau reported an error rate of 0.01% in the 2010 census—an overcount of only 36,000 people, a statistically insignificant mistake.
The 2020 errors were discovered through the “2020 Post-Enumeration Survey.”
After each census, the bureau interviews a large number of households across the country and then compares the interview answers with the original census responses. The 2020 survey showed that the bureau overcounted the population in Delaware, Hawaii, Massachusetts, Minnesota, New York, Ohio, Rhode Island, and Utah. The largest mistake was in President Joe Biden’s home state of Delaware, which was overcounted by 5.45%.
The states whose populations were undercounted were Arkansas, Florida, Illinois, Mississippi, Tennessee, and Texas. The largest error in the undercount was in Arkansas, where the population count was off by 5.04%.
The original census reported that Florida needed only 171,500 more residents to gain another congressional seat. Yet the survey shows that Florida was undercounted by over three-quarters of a million people. The bureau also said that Texas needed only 189,000 more people to gain another congressional seat. The survey shows that Texas was undercounted by 560,319 residents.
Minnesota, according to the original census report, would have lost a congressional seat during reapportionment if it had 26 fewer residents; the survey shows the state was overcounted by 216,971 individuals. Similarly, Rhode Island would have lost a seat if the Census Bureau had counted 19,000 fewer residents. It turns out that the state was overcounted by more than 55,000 individuals.
The Associated Press quoted John Marion of Common Cause in Rhode Island admitting that the state would benefit from this mistake, including “more representation in Congress.”
Unfortunately, the federal statutes governing the census and apportionment provide no remedy to correct this problem. And it would be very difficult to devise an acceptable remedy this far after the fact.
The census is geared to providing a count of the population on one specific date, in this case April 1, 2020. A remedy that involved ordering the Census Bureau to conduct another actual recount in the 14 affected states—a complex, expensive undertaking—would provide numbers on a different date than the original census, whose population totals would still be in effect for the rest of the states. This would raise fundamental fairness issues, given the high mobility of our population.
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rinselberg
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AUG 22, 01:15 AM
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rinselberg
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AUG 22, 08:19 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by Wichita:
Don't think there is a Deep State? Do you really think everything the government does is to benefit the average person? You don't think they would rig an election? NO! Well, they rigged the Census. |
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Purposely miscounted?
Maybe.
That wasn't enough to convince me. It could have something to do with the people who are being counted, and not the people who are doing the counting. I really have no idea.
It's an interesting opening or gambit, but I doubt that more of this possible game will be played.[This message has been edited by rinselberg (edited 08-22-2022).]
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ray b
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AUG 22, 08:58 AM
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well who was large and in charge in 2020 not joe
your hero the rump was the head guy so this screw up is his
if this actually happened just one more sign of very poor to incompetent leadership
but that is a rump specialty screw up beyond all recognition [ but blame others] ------------------
Question wonder and be wierd
are you kind?
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ray b
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AUG 22, 09:00 AM
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and or poor leadership in red states
as the count is locally run
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82-T/A [At Work]
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AUG 22, 10:33 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by Wichita:
Don't think there is a Deep State? Do you really think everything the government does is to benefit the average person? You don't think they would rig an election? NO!
Well, they rigged the Census.
SHOCKED |
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Here's the link for anyone who wants the reference to send to their liberal friends that don't believe it:
https://www.zerohedge.com/p...tes-just-1-red-state
I will admit, Wichita, this definitely enraged me this morning. I'm tired of being right... this is exactly what I suspected had happened... as I will explain.
| quote | Originally posted by rinselberg:
Purposely miscounted?
Maybe.
That wasn't enough to convince me. It could have something to do with the people who are being counted, and not the people who are doing the counting. I really have no idea.
It's an interesting opening or gambit, but I doubt that more of this possible game will be played.
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Here is an article from CBS that effectively outlines the crap that the Census Bureau pushed: https://www.nbcnews.com/pol...leased-next-n1265048
It's a very liberal article, so it's all written as the Census Bureau was protecting the country from the wrath of President Trump.
| quote | Originally posted by ray b:
well who was large and in charge in 2020 not joe
your hero the rump was the head guy so this screw up is his
if this actually happened just one more sign of very poor to incompetent leadership
but that is a rump specialty screw up beyond all recognition [ but blame others]
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The Census Bureau violated Constitutional law by failing to adequately report the census numbers as outlined in the Constitution. Furthermore, when it finally came down to it... the Census Bureau flat-out refused to release the numbers WHILE the president was still in office. They basically stated they didn't trust the Trump administration, and waited until Biden was comfortably in office before they released the numbers to the White House.
One of the things I specifically said was that I felt this was a ploy to help prevent the damage to Democrats that was expected from the latest census results. Democrats knew this, and I feared that the Biden administration would attempt to manipulate the numbers to soften the blow.
Now we know this is exactly the case, from the article above:
"Florida was cheated out of two additional seats it should have gotten; Texas missed out on another seat; Minnesota and Rhode Island each kept a representative they shouldn’t have; and Colorado was awarded a new member of the House it didn’t deserve."
I just don't understand how the two of you can sit here and be OK with this. Look, I still like both you guys, and I'd buy you each a beer if we met in a bar... that hasn't changed. I also know that psychologically, we are driven to support our causes simply because we believe in them so strongly. But you have to understand, the end does NOT justify the means... no matter how much you convince yourself that this is acceptable.
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ray b
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AUG 22, 10:56 AM
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just like the rumps serial tax cheating ?
from before his dad died
they do not give out 2 million in fines for NOTHING WRONG------------------
Question wonder and be wierd
are you kind?
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82-T/A [At Work]
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AUG 22, 12:17 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by ray b:
just like the rumps serial tax cheating ?
from before his dad died
they do not give out 2 million in fines for NOTHING WRONG
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Whether or not Trump's father cheated on his taxes 50 years ago, does absolutely not excuse the Census bureau from literally manipulating the census to dramatically support one party over another. This is criminal to epic proportions.
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ray b
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AUG 22, 12:29 PM
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do know the Gop cryed about counting the homeless and other groups
and wonder how many illegals semi-legals maybe someday legals count in fla
they all get state services and are a cost to other tax payers kids in schools ect
massive numbers not a few down here------------------
Question wonder and be wierd
are you kind?
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rinselberg
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AUG 22, 12:41 PM
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I didn't say that I was "OK" with it.
Wichita said (at the very top) that this will be "swept under the rug."
If it does get swept under the rug, who would be at fault for that?
The phoney baloney cartoons and image memes and the misleading remarks about an "army" of more than 80,000 gun-toting IRS agents, or even just 80,000 IRS agents "period"... what does that do for this issue?
Are Republicans all about trolling and not much else?
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