"California Dreamin'" (Page 1/2)
williegoat NOV 05, 07:11 PM
1965 seems like an alien planet now. But in many ways, we haven’t changed a bit. The difference was that back then we all had hope. I suppose that was because we just didn’t know any better. We were being lied to back then, too, but we wanted to believe.

This is a great song that has stood the test of time, even if the lyrics seem naive, viewed from nearly 60 years in the future.

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Let's go Brandon!

MidEngineManiac NOV 05, 07:32 PM
The hope is gone

So are the dreams

So are the most basic of freedoms, never mind the higher-level ones.

Funny thing is, 1988 that song was playing in my head as I landed at SFO. Was going to start a new free life.

BOY, did I learn quick that's not the way it works.
randye NOV 05, 07:32 PM
There is a new dream now:
Valkrie9 NOV 05, 09:18 PM

California Dreaming
So, you want to be in the movies !
82-T/A [At Work] NOV 05, 09:28 PM

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Originally posted by williegoat:

1965 seems like an alien planet now. But in many ways, we haven’t changed a bit. The difference was that back then we all had hope. I suppose that was because we just didn’t know any better. We were being lied to back then, too, but we wanted to believe.

This is a great song that has stood the test of time, even if the lyrics seem naive, viewed from nearly 60 years in the future.







I had this on a two-song record (little record, don't know what you call it, one song each side) that I used to play on my HeMan record player. I used to listen to it all the time as a kid in the early early 80s. I'd never seen the actual music video before... they even had Jimmy Hendrix in there!

Yeah... funny to see these people. They're all so young, and probably in their 60s or 70s now.

Reminds me... I also have one of those small records from Rare Earth too. Get Ready, the long version... hahah, it's like almost 15 minutes long.

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williegoat NOV 05, 09:39 PM

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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:

I had this on a two-song record (little record, don't know what you call it, one song each side)



Sounds like a "45". I got a box of them somewhere, from the '50's

https://www.discogs.com/rel...amin-Somebody-Groovy


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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:

Yeah... funny to see these people. They're all so young, and probably in their 60s or 70s now.



The concert footage is from the 1967 Monterey Pops festival, although the audio is from a studio recording.
If you search Youtube, there is a lot of great video from the '67 Monterey Pops. I posted another video of that show a few months back: https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum6/HTML/127559.html

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blackrams NOV 05, 09:54 PM
As a kid living on a farm/ranch in 65, I thought CA was cool and the place to be. In 1972 (while serving in the Marines) I was in CA and discovered just how much foolish my beliefs were. It's only gotten worse. Ironically, I've got some very good friends living there (who would like to leave but are close to retirement and can't just quit. Told them they were welcome wherever I was as long as they don't California my Mississippi. or wherever I was living at the time.
California Dream'n was/is a great song but, it's a lie.

Rams
williegoat NOV 05, 10:34 PM
I was reading the comments from the “California Dreamin” video and many were from “millennials” who simultaneously expressed an affinity for the era and disappointment in the world that was left to them by “the boomers”.

The idea of “The Sixties” as a monolithic culture is a myth. There were many diverse sub-cultures even within what was often called “The Counterculture”.

Just like now, there was a lying, self serving aristocracy and evil subversives with well-intentioned but ignorant followers. In most ways, we were more free. Free enough to really screw things up. But also free to create great things, and that was the freedom that made America the greatest nation the world has ever hosted.

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MidEngineManiac NOV 05, 10:53 PM

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Originally posted by williegoat:

and that was the freedom that made America the greatest nation the world has ever hosted.




YUP....somewhere south of the Mason-Dixon, or north to Alaska where population is so sparse nobody gives a sheet.

Or small town nowhere. 10k or less population.

Sure, ya have the freedom to be be a druggie, hooker, gang-banger, self-identified gender-bender, or thief...

I have the freedom to not want you around and remove as required. THAT particular part of freedom, is what the leftists are so against.

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williegoat NOV 05, 11:06 PM
1971:



So, what has changed?