"Christian nationalism" ever be nontoxic to nonbelievers ? (Page 1/2)
ray b FEB 16, 02:37 PM
"Christian nationalism" ever be nontoxic to nonbelievers ?

well can it or not I think they just can't
as their belief system demands condemnation of sinners
and to them anyone not in their cult is a sinner
no matter what other actions
just like a tali-ban member can't be nontoxic their beliefs demand it


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bonus question

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Question wonder and be wierd
are you kind?

MidEngineManiac FEB 16, 02:47 PM
For once I agree with you.

ANY theocracy, by its nature, demands 100% adherence to its beliefs. Convert or be punished.

Which is why separation of church and state is such a good idea. (Which, BTW, is little more than lip-service in a democratic system. Once any belief system has a majority they will pass laws to enforce their beliefs on everyone)

and which is also not much different than leftism and wokeism.

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Jake_Dragon FEB 16, 02:55 PM
Trust me here, most people are not as "toxic" as you think they are. Perhaps you should find new places to hang out if you can't stand where you currently are.
They would prefer to just be left alone.
MidEngineManiac FEB 16, 03:01 PM
Wont work Jake...

Just like the Allah-Snackbar-Boombers and mouth-frothing hystarical satan-seers, leftist despise anybody who doesnt think like them and they cant control. They are the toxic ones in the group and it follows them anywhere they go, they just dont see it.
Jake_Dragon FEB 16, 03:07 PM
Guess I have just had better luck picking places to live and who I hang out with.
At no point in my life have I ever been around any toxic "Christians" that I could not just walk away from.
williegoat FEB 16, 03:42 PM
As every good conservative knows, the answer to all such problems lies within the U.S.Constitution. Specifically, in the First Amendment.


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Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof...


We should all strive to protect the constitution from totalitarian zealots, whatever their agenda might be.
MidEngineManiac FEB 16, 04:15 PM
Thats what I mean about "lip service"...

It specifies congress.

Says nothing about city/county/state. Or executive branch. Or corporate policy/bylaw (if you look, you will find most cities/towns ect are corporations).

There is a hole wide enough in that protection to drive the sun through. It's up to the people to do their own enforcing.

Slightly different here in Canada, as there are numerous supreme court rulings enforcing the idea we have freedom FROM religion and its practices (and by extension ideology). But again, enforcement of that right can be an issue.

https://www.huffpost.com/ar...m-religion_b_5351944

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williegoat FEB 16, 04:55 PM

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Originally posted by MidEngineManiac:

Thats what I mean about "lip service"...

It specifies congress.

Says nothing about city/county/state. Or executive branch. Or corporate policy/bylaw (if you look, you will find most cities/towns ect are corporations).

There is a hole wide enough in that protection to drive the sun through. It's up to the people to do their own enforcing.

Slightly different here in Canada, as there are numerous supreme court rulings enforcing the idea we have freedom FROM religion and its practices (and by extension ideology). But again, enforcement of that right can be an issue.

https://www.huffpost.com/ar...m-religion_b_5351944



That is covered in section 1 of the 14th amendment:


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All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

MidEngineManiac FEB 16, 06:08 PM
Lip service. Most recent current example is all the bible-belt states rushing to pass anti-abortion laws, which is nothing more than enforcing their theological views on everyone. Prohibition and "war on drugs" were the same.
cliffw FEB 18, 03:29 PM

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Originally posted by MidEngineManiac:
For once I agree with you.

ANY theocracy, by its nature, demands 100% adherence to its beliefs. Convert or be punished.
... which is also not much different than leftism and wokeism.



Are you talking about Global Warming ?