Newly declassified... U.S. 'intel' cannot pin Covid on any of China's virus labs. (Page 1/3)
rinselberg JUN 24, 10:56 PM
"No direct evidence COVID began in Wuhan lab, US intelligence report says"
Olivia Gazis for CBS News; June 23, 2023.
https://www.cbsnews.com/new...ligence-report-says/

This is a brief news report from a legacy or "mainstream" news media organization—just a few paragraphs. It's not a cartoon or "meme", and neither is the newly declassified report (10 pages) from the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, Avril Haines.

"Potential Links Between the Wuhan Institute of Virology and the Origin of the Covid-19 Pandemic"
Office of the Director of National Intelligence; June 23, 2023.
https://www.dni.gov/files/O...OVID-19-20230623.pdf

[This message has been edited by rinselberg (edited 06-24-2023).]

WonderBoy JUN 25, 12:30 AM
Labs, wet markets, labs, wet markets, blah blah blah.
Reproduce it or find it in the wild. No? THEN SHUT THE F UP. To you and the cabal media, bat goo mixed with octopus brine, with a dash of cat meat and some panda poo and presto, Covidians was born. It took Edison 2774 tries to make a long lasting electric light bulb.

Libroid controlled education indoctrination camps.


82-T/A [At Work] JUN 26, 07:35 AM

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Originally posted by rinselberg:

"No direct evidence COVID began in Wuhan lab, US intelligence report says"
Olivia Gazis for CBS News; June 23, 2023.
https://www.cbsnews.com/new...ligence-report-says/

This is a brief news report from a legacy or "mainstream" news media organization—just a few paragraphs. It's not a cartoon or "meme", and neither is the newly declassified report (10 pages) from the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, Avril Haines.

"Potential Links Between the Wuhan Institute of Virology and the Origin of the Covid-19 Pandemic"
Office of the Director of National Intelligence; June 23, 2023.
https://www.dni.gov/files/O...OVID-19-20230623.pdf





There is a ton of evidence officially released by the NIH through FOIA that detailed U.S. funding of multiple gain of function projects in the Wuhan Virology Lab, SPECIFICALLY:
- SARS Cov2,
- Bat to human transmission

... and others.


"No direct evidence COVID began in Wuhan lab" is the same thing as saying... "Well, I know we were funding this exact same research, doing the exact same thing, but since we don't have proof that anyone took it out of the lab, it could just be coincidental.

Once again, the sheep are picking and choosing the answers they specifically want, which will make them feel safe and comfortable in their belief system. The idea that the government would do anything against them makes them feel sad, so they're going to go with whatever makes them feel better to support their delusions. No chance whatsoever that an organization that literally sits under the power of the executive branch, is going to be a spokesperson for the executive branch. Nooo!

This isn't conspiracy, we LITERALLY said that we funded it, researched it (gain of function), and tested it's ability to spread. Just totally coincidental, of course, that a virus by the exact same name (SARS Cov2) magically appeared in a bazaar a couple of miles down the street. Because BIDEN SAID SO!!!
rinselberg JUN 26, 07:39 AM

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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
There is a ton of evidence officially released by the NIH through FOIA that detailed U.S. funding of multiple gain of function projects in the Wuhan Virology Lab, SPECIFICALLY:
  • SARS Cov2
  • Bat to human transmission
  • Others


Hit me with your best online document link.

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82-T/A [At Work] JUN 26, 09:27 AM

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Originally posted by rinselberg:

Hit me with your best online document link.





God damn dude... we've literally talked about this a dozen times before. I don't want to be mean, but I don't think you work... so maybe YOU can put in the effort to search for it.

This is the first thing I found:

https://theintercept.com/20...f-function-research/

and then a link from Congress:

https://www.congress.gov/11...4-20211201-SD004.pdf


There's even more specific stuff, but basically The Intercept, along with another news organization, sued the NIH for failing to respond to a FOIA request. Along with a whistleblower, they released this information. There's a lot more to this, and other things had been removed, but BING and GOOGLE really restrict results related to COVID, so it's hard to find. Somewhere on my computer, I have the actual files saved from when this all broke.

Please spend YOUR time doing research on this since:
A - You aren't currently working.
B - You are still a skeptic and this is more important to you.


This isn't a win/lose argument... just do the research...
fredtoast JUN 26, 09:37 AM
I don't know if we will ever find out the exact origin of the disease. China has destroyed the records that were needed to connect it to the lab.

But one thing I am 100% sure of. The Chinese did not do this on purpose. They were hurt as bad, and sometimes worse, than other countries.

I wish we could somehow hold them accountable, But it is not like they got away with some secret plan. They just covered up a big mistake.
82-T/A [At Work] JUN 26, 09:56 AM

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Originally posted by fredtoast:

I don't know if we will ever find out the exact origin of the disease. China has destroyed the records that were needed to connect it to the lab.

But one thing I am 100% sure of. The Chinese did not do this on purpose. They were hurt as bad, and sometimes worse, than other countries.

I wish we could somehow hold them accountable, But it is not like they got away with some secret plan. They just covered up a big mistake.




What we've learned is that COVID affects (mostly) the elderly, the weak, and the sickly. In a society where the elderly rely on the work and efforts of the younger people, the older generation becomes a burden. Essentially, welfare programs become burdened by the older people. As a society, we want to protect these people in their golden years. But in places such as China, I would not put it past them that they would recognize the "benefit" (as bad as it might be) of reducing the financial burden of their elderly class. It disproportionately killed people who were a drain on their economy, rather than a benefit to it. So I have to think this was somewhat intentional.

Also, I got COVID the first time in late 2019 December / early 2020 January in Afghanistan. The entire base was hit with it before it started making any news in the United States. I left in late February, and by that point it was starting to hit the news like crazy. I'd gotten over it by then, but I flew back just before March, and just made it before they locked down international flights. My thought is that this was intentional. Afghanistan borders China of course... but seems odd that this started spreading in several specific places before it even really became a news thing in China.

We also know now that much of the news we saw in early 2020 was fake. Remember all those videos from China that were "leaked" by "insiders" that showed people throwing up blood, convulsing, and hospitals in China being overwhelmed and people dying en-mass? All of those videos were staged, came from China, and helped to make the United States freak out.

If we count loss of life... yes, COVID was horrible to both the US and China.

Economically, COVID was the best thing that ever happened to China. As a direct result of COVID, they lost nearly 10% of their elderly population... and people bought nearly a trillion-dollars worth of products online (while at home), all of which came from China. It completely turned-around their economy, while it devastated ours.


Thoughts?
ray b JUN 26, 12:34 PM
5 times the unvaxed died for every 2 shot vax person

pure blood kills 5 times more often

3 or 4 shots far less death

why are people claiming so much BS about a vax shot

I was a little kid when the first polio vax killed/live shot
and nut cases were afraid then and spread rumors
but polio died not people
remember survival is a feature not a problem
fredtoast JUN 26, 12:43 PM

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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:


Economically, COVID was the best thing that ever happened to China. As a direct result of COVID, they lost nearly 10% of their elderly population... and people bought nearly a trillion-dollars worth of products online (while at home), all of which came from China. It completely turned-around their economy, while it devastated ours.


Thoughts?



My thoughts are that China's economy suffered greatly due to covid.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/01...-hnk-intl/index.html


China’s economy expanded by just 3% in 2022, far below the government’s own target, marking one of the worst performances in nearly half a century. Growth was impacted heavily by months of widespread Covid lockdowns and a historic downturn in the property market.

“China’s domestic economy has suffered unexpected shocks in 2022, including frequent Covid outbreaks and extreme heatwaves,” Kang Yi, director of the NBS, told a press conference in Beijing.

“The triple pressures of demand contraction, supply shocks, and weakening expectations continue to evolve, and the complexity, severity, and uncertainty of the environment are increasing.”

China had taken a zero-tolerance approach to the coronavirus since the pandemic began. But three years of restrictions have wreaked havoc on the economy, sparked public anger and placed extraordinary pressure on local governments’ finances.

Tuesday’s data offered a glimpse into how the Covid surge has disrupted the economy in the past month. Retail sales fell 1.8% in December, falling for a third month in a row.

The contraction was mainly caused by the spread of Covid, as “most people got infected and stayed at home,” said Chaoping Zhu, global market strategist at JP Morgan Asset Management.

For the entire year, retail sales dropped 0.2%, while it had seen a 12.5% growth in 2021.
82-T/A [At Work] JUN 26, 12:51 PM

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Originally posted by fredtoast:


My thoughts are that China's economy suffered greatly due to covid.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/01...-hnk-intl/index.html

For the entire year, retail sales dropped 0.2%, while it had seen a 12.5% growth in 2021. [/i]




In 2022, China suffered because we went through a recession, stopped buying, and there was a backlash towards China. But in 2021, China benefited exponentially where as every other country suffered greatly. I maintained the last sentence in your quote because it reflect this... they saw a 12.5% growth in 2021, which as a direct result of everyone sitting at home and buying products online that came from China.