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rinselberg
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JUL 12, 02:53 PM
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Underneath every city, the ground absorbs heat from the basements of buildings, parking garages, sewer and subway systems and other underground infrastructure. The ground underground absorbs this heat more quickly than it rises and dissipates at the surface. This creates underground urban heat islands that are further exacerbated by the higher above ground temperates from greenhouse gas-driven global warming.
Bone up on it, and be ready to roll it out at your next cocktail party or bulls**t session at the tavern.
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Viva la revolución del 15 de agosto
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82-T/A [At Work]
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JUL 12, 06:58 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by rinselberg:
Underneath every city, the ground absorbs heat from the basements of buildings, parking garages, sewer and subway systems and other underground infrastructure. The ground underground absorbs this heat more quickly than it rises and dissipates at the surface. This creates underground urban heat islands that are further exacerbated by the higher above ground temperates from greenhouse gas-driven global warming.
Bone up on it, and be ready to roll it out at your next cocktail party or bulls**t session at the tavern.
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Can't say I've ever had a bullshit session at a tavern about underground climate change... but if you're ever in Tampa and want to shoot the **** about it... I'll find a good bar. I'll even invite Randye and sit between you guys. We'll all be laughing after 2 beers anyway...
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cliffw
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JUL 12, 08:57 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by rinselberg:
Underneath every city, the ground absorbs heat from the basements of buildings, parking garages, sewer and subway systems and other underground infrastructure. The ground underground absorbs this heat more quickly than it rises and dissipates at the surface. This creates underground urban heat islands that are further exacerbated by the higher above ground temperates from greenhouse gas-driven global warming.
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More fear mongering ?
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rinselberg
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JUL 12, 09:52 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by cliffw:
More fear mongering? |
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Is that your perception from the videos? Or either of the videos? They are short videos. The first one, a minute and a half, and the second one, just over three minutes.
One of the ideas (it's mentioned in one of the videos, probably the second one) is to work out ways to capture the heat from the below ground parts of buildings and other infrastructure, or capture it from the underground itself, and use it as an energy source. That would help mitigate the underground heat transfer phenomenon, and provide some energy savings as an additional benefit.[This message has been edited by rinselberg (edited 07-12-2023).]
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cliffw
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JUL 13, 08:03 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by rinselberg:
Is that your perception from the videos? Or either of the videos? They are short videos. The first one, a minute and a half, and the second one, just over three minutes.
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No. Did you think I watched your fear mongering videos ?
My perception is from your thread title.
I hear tell that in many places in the USA, that pavement and high rises buildings are adding too much weight for the land to support.
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rinselberg
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JUL 13, 08:30 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by cliffw:
No. Did you think I watched your fear mongering videos? My perception is from your thread title. I hear tell that in many places in the USA, that pavement and high rises buildings are adding too much weight for the land to support. |
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Yes, indeed. There was an article about exactly that, the other day. "New York City is sinking under its own weight—or the force of gravity." I think it was in the New York Times.
These two brief YouTube "briefings" are about research that's been carried out underground, in Chicago.
The two concerns here are related, because the Underground Climate Change increases the severity of the weight (gravity) problem.
Of course, if you're not planning to visit New York City or Chicago, or any other city around the world, and don't want to have that possibility for yourself, there's no reason for you to be concerned. You might even be reacting to this as if it were "good news"... a deserved comeuppance for those "blue" (Demorat-infested) cities.
I think the good news is that it's being researched, and perhaps new ways to react to it constructively (pun intended) can be devised.
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rinselberg
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JUL 13, 10:10 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by cliffw:
No. Did you think I watched your fear mongering videos? |
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"Stay Thirsty, My Friend"[This message has been edited by rinselberg (edited 07-13-2023).]
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rinselberg
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JUL 13, 06:33 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by cliffw:
No. Did you think I watched your fear mongering videos?
My perception [of fear mongering] is from your thread title.
I hear tell that in many places in the USA, that pavement and high rises buildings are adding too much weight for the land to support. |
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Would you believe "Underground heat from cities is eating away at the stability of buildings and infrastructure, adding to the effect of gravity as the underground upon which cities are built is compacted by the downward pressure from the weight above, from pavement, buildings and other above ground construction"..?
Unfortunately, that's too many characters for a Pennock's New Topic subject line or thread title.[This message has been edited by rinselberg (edited 07-13-2023).]
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WonderBoy
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JUL 14, 12:47 AM
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rinselberg
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JUL 14, 03:29 AM
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That's John Kerry's oceanfront property overlooking Vineyard Sound on the north east coast of Martha's Vineyard.
John Kerry has seen 79 or 80 birthdays in his life. There's no reason to think that he was projecting as far into the future as 2050 and beyond, when he acquired this property in 1Q 2017.
This is a 2-minute video segment on YouTube "Visualizing Sea Level Rise Around Martha's Vineyard." It was produced in 2013 by the Martha's Vineyard Commission.
https://youtu.be/hFHzgQzd4_c
| quote | | In order to illustrate the impacts of sea level rise, the [Martha's Vineyard Commission] prepared a series of maps showing what the impact might be on the Island, and visual simulations showing what this could look like in a number of critical locations. These illustrations use an estimate of 1.5 feet by 2050 and 5.0 feet by 2100, representing a plausible sea-level rise scenario, corresponding roughly to Rahmstorf’s moderate-emissions scenario that assumes no significant decrease in the global production of greenhouse gases, along with at least 4.4” per century added to account for land subsidence. |
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Martha's Vineyard Commission: Sea Level Rise.
https://www.mvcommission.org/sea-level-rise[This message has been edited by rinselberg (edited 07-14-2023).]
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