Time for that global uprising yet ? (Page 1/1)
MidEngineManiac JUL 25, 07:51 PM
How long until they try this crap here ? Ya just KNOW once one country does it and gets away with it, the rest will follow shortly.

https://extra.ie/2023/07/24...age-charge-motorists
Vintage-Nut JUL 25, 08:46 PM
Infrastructure Bill Includes Per-Mile Road Tax Test That Will Track Drivers’ Travel

Nestled inside the 2,702-page text is Section 13002, titled "National motor vehicle per-mile user fee pilot."

Today, Americans pay at the pump—every gallon of gasoline and diesel is taxed. As fewer cars visit the pump, this pilot program is for a national per-mile tax plan.

House Bill 2026
The Washington State Transportation Commission (WSTC) has been leading the effort to study, test, and report to the legislature the feasibility of imposing a per-mile tax, formally known as a Road Usage Charge (RUC). If implemented, a RUC would require drivers to pay a tax for every mile they drive rather than paying a tax on every gallon of gas they purchase.
Fats JUL 26, 12:20 AM
Wonder how they will track that one with us old farts driving vehicles that don't accurately track mileage anymore.

In the semi I have to keep track based on mileage in a state, and I know a guy that'll (on paper) pay a few more miles in tax in one state in order to stiff a few states that he doesn't like.
williegoat JUL 26, 12:35 AM

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Originally posted by Fats:

Wonder how they will track that one with us old farts driving vehicles that don't accurately track mileage anymore.

In the semi I have to keep track based on mileage in a state, and I know a guy that'll (on paper) pay a few more miles in tax in one state in order to stiff a few states that he doesn't like.


Oregon has been experimenting with this for quite some time. They are using both GPS and OBD attached devices on cars.
Fats JUL 26, 02:43 AM
We all saw this stuff coming with the rise of electric cars, so it's no surprise really. I'll still go down kicking and screaming... Not that it'll make any difference in the end, the leftards seem intent on making this world a hellscape of Government control and anyone that stands up against them is labeled a kook.

rinselberg JUL 26, 05:27 AM

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We all saw this stuff coming with the rise of electric cars, so it's no surprise really. I'll still go down kicking and screaming... Not that it'll make any difference in the end, the leftards seem intent on making this world a hellscape of Government control and anyone that stands up against them is labeled a kook.


Helllscape? Did someone just say "hellscape"..? Satan's abode or "Hell" is imagined, very commonly, as being in the grasp of an eternal heat wave. So was that a Freudian slip?

I do like the imagery in that remark of people who are on the same page about this, trying in vain to stand up against the societal exigencies of human-attributable Climate Change, but only being dismissed as kooks by the "leftards" and so, going down in futility and in flames (so to speak.)

That's a lament worthy of the lute-accompanied melancholy of a practiced medieval busker with a fine baritone voice.


WARM up to this, whydoncha...

"Heat waves hitting U.S. and Europe 'virtually impossible' without climate change, researchers say"

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The heat waves simultaneously broiling the southwest United States and southern Europe would have been “virtually impossible” if not for climate change, according to a group of scientists who study the probability of extreme weather events. A third heat wave, in China, could have been expected about once every 250 years if global warming weren’t a factor.

“The role of climate change is absolutely overwhelming” in producing all three extremes, said Friederike Otto, a climate scientist at Imperial College London, who contributed to the new research, which was published Tuesday by the World Weather Attribution group.

The group is a loose consortium of climate scientists who study extreme weather and publish rapid findings about climate change’s role in major events. Their research methods are published and peer-reviewed, but this specific, rapid analysis has not yet undergone a typical academic review process. Previous analyses by this group have held up to scrutiny after their initial release and were ultimately published in major academic journals.

Global warming has increased the likelihood of extreme temperatures so significantly that heat waves as powerful as the ones setting records in places like Phoenix, Catalonia and in China’s Xinjiang region this July could be expected once every 15 years in the U.S., once every 10 in southern Europe and once every five in China, the research found.

The heat has been blamed for record-breaking power demand in China and outages in the U.S. and Europe, as well as crop losses or cattle deaths in all three regions, the report found.

This summer has set records at a staggering pace.

“This is not a surprise. This is absolutely not a surprise in terms of the temperatures, the weather events that we are seeing,” Otto said at a news conference. “In the past, these events would have been extremely rare.”

The analysis provides another example of how shifts in global average temperatures can create conditions for new, harmful extremes. The scientists warned that the extremes observed this year are expected to worsen as humans continue to emit heat-trapping gasses and rely so heavily on fossil fuels.

“This is not the new normal, as long as we keep burning fossil fuels. As long as we keep burning fossil fuels, we will see more and more of these extremes,” Otto said.

Six climate scientists contributed to the recent study. It evaluated an 18-day stretch of high temperatures across the U.S. Southwest and northern Mexico, a seven-day stretch of high temperatures in Europe and a 14-day stretch of maximum measures in China’s lowland regions. . . .


It's not a long article. That was more than half of the entire text.

Evan Bush for NBC News; July 24, 2023.
https://www.nbcnews.com/sci...ange-resea-rcna95956

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fredtoast JUL 26, 08:22 AM

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Originally posted by Fats:
the leftards seem intent on making this world a hellscape of Government control.




The "hellscape" existed when there was no government regulation. That is not an opinion. That is a fact proven by history and conditions today in areas of the world that have no government regulation. Workers are oppressed. The environment is destroyed. There is no stable economy.