Mitch McConnell (Page 1/2)
Jake_Dragon JUL 26, 11:53 PM


This is sad, someone that should be spending the end of their lives in the company of family and friends.

I don't know what happened but I hope what ever it is that its not lasting and that Mitch and retire like he should have years ago.
Wichita JUL 27, 12:44 AM
I have no idea why these politicians rather die in office than give their seat up. I'm assuming the power you believe you have in political office is like Gollum and the One Ring (LOTR reference).

Remember Strom Thurmond died in office at age 100.

Diane isn't far off. She was convinced during the Hoover Administration and still won't give up her seat.

Jake_Dragon JUL 27, 01:25 PM
Patrick JUL 27, 05:29 PM
That was rather unsettling to witness.

I have no idea as to its accuracy, but this comment at YouTube below the McConnell video is rather sobering...


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10 Senators, 27 Representatives, and both the President and his most-likely challenger in the next election are all over 75.



I can't imagine that it can be beneficial for any country to rely on a brain-trust of this advanced age and cognitive (in)ability.

[This message has been edited by Patrick (edited 07-27-2023).]

fredtoast JUL 27, 07:39 PM
There are examples of this on both sides and it is sad to see. But when most of them finally get wheeled out of office their district still votes the same party to replace them. Ruth Bader Ginsberg really screwed up by not retiring when she got cancer while Obama was still President. That one move will have a big effect on the political landscape of the United States for years to come.
Vintage-Nut JUL 27, 07:41 PM
For the best!
olejoedad JUL 27, 07:48 PM
Yes, it got us back to the rule of Constitutional Law, rather than the political circus.

The clowns on one side of the aisle would like to return to the circus.

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82-T/A [At Work] JUL 28, 08:20 AM
Part of me understands, but the other part of me does not.

I realize that... if the desire is to serve, it's a strong emotion that once you've done it, you want nothing more than to get back to that point.

It gives strong purpose to your life that goes above and beyond simply going through the daily grind you might have in any other job perhaps. Not to say that someone who "serves" in a government capacity is a better person, but if you've gone into it for that very reason ... "to serve," then it feeds that desire to help.

In my own way, I've recognized this in my own public service, but you have to recognize that when you've accomplished what you came to do, it's time to step aside and move on. When I'd take a tour for 3 years, I would come in, shake things up in the new organization, and at the end of my three years, they'd ask me to stay... but I knew that I'd accomplished all that I reasonably could and it was time to let someone else come in with a fresh perspective. It didn't always work, more often than not the people that replaced me were horrible (not my opinion, but of those colleagues I'd worked with who were permanently assigned), but that didn't negate the fact that I'd done what I came to do, and it was my responsibility to move on. All the proverbial "fights" and battles that I won, would never have presented themselves if I stayed.

Perhaps these old farts think they've achieved the highest position they'll ever achieve in life, and they don't want to let it go... so if the intent is to serve, then they don't think they'll ever be able to accomplish anything more than what they're already doing, and they can't let go. This is a farce, because you need only look at Jimmy Carter, who... arguably did not have a great presidency... but maintained his entrepreneurial and altruistic personality and did far more good post-presidency, than realistically any other president I've had the privilege of reading about.

Conversely, perhaps these individuals... McConnell, Feinstein, Biden, etc... they are in it BECAUSE of power... and anyone who seeks power for the sake of power, should have no power at all.
fredtoast JUL 28, 08:30 AM

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Originally posted by olejoedad:

Yes, it got us back to the rule of Constitutional Law, rather than the political circus.

The clowns on one side of the aisle would like to return to the circus.




I think you are a little confused here. it was the CONSERVATIVE majority of the Supreme court that has said "money equals speech" and "corporations are humans".

I have scanned the Constitution a few times and I did not see those statements in there.
82-T/A [At Work] JUL 28, 09:29 AM

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Originally posted by fredtoast:


I think you are a little confused here. it was the CONSERVATIVE majority of the Supreme court that has said "money equals speech" and "corporations are humans".

I have scanned the Constitution a few times and I did not see those statements in there.




On this we agree.. in principle, allowing Citizens United to win that case seemed like a good idea for Republicans at the time in order for that anti-Hillary movie to go through. Democrats were vehemently against it. We opened the door, and now Democrats LOVE the ruling and are the major benefactors of it.