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Chicago - 1968 - Abbie Hoffman (Page 1/2) |
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williegoat
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AUG 07, 11:48 AM
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(nsfw - language)
I am going to post these without comment, for now. Draw your own conclusions. Some might find it interesting, particularly those who weren't around back then.
------------------ "Ain't no rest for the whiskers."
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steve308
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AUG 07, 03:30 PM
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Abbie who?
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randye
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AUG 07, 08:47 PM
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THE most productive thing that scumbag Hoffman ever did was swallow 150 phenobarbital tabs along a lot of booze thereby killing himself 20 years later. [This message has been edited by randye (edited 08-07-2023).]
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ray b
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AUG 08, 11:31 AM
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quote | Originally posted by randye:
THE most productive thing that scumbag Hoffman ever did was swallow 150 phenobarbital tabs along a lot of booze thereby killing himself 20 years later.
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abbie was a better man then you[This message has been edited by ray b (edited 08-08-2023).]
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fredtoast
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AUG 08, 01:08 PM
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It is easy to dismiss Hoffman as a clown based on these videos, but he was DEADLY serious. Look at the death tolls from the riots of the 1960's before that infamous convention in 68.
You all have to realize that when people protested back then they were subject to being murdered. Everyone knows about the white kids killed at Kent State, but in 1962 Federal Authorities killed two students in the Ole Miss riot of 1962, and The Orangeburg massacre was the killing of three and wounding of twenty-eight student protestors by the South Carolina Highway Patrol in Orangeburg, South Carolina, on the South Carolina State College campus.
Many of the major riots of the 60's had large death tolls. Harlem 1964 (1 dead), Rochester 1964 (5 dead), Watts 1965 (34 dead), Hough Riots [Cleveland] 1966 (4 dead), Buffalo 1967 (34 rioters shot, but none died), Newark 1967 (26 dead), Detroit 1967 (43 dead), Washington DC 1968 (13 dead), Baltimore 1968 (6 dead),
And the railroading of Abby and the Chicago 7 is an embarrassment to the criminal justice system.
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randye
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AUG 08, 09:54 PM
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quote | Originally posted by fredtoast:
It is easy to dismiss Hoffman as a clown based on these videos, but he was DEADLY serious.
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You never met Hoffman did you?
I did.
I was there in Chicago in 68'
That asswipe was never serious about a damn thing in his entire life, with the possible exception of being "deadly serious" about trying to escape responsibility for his own acts.
He was a classic sociopathic narcissist and his greatest joy was attempting to screw up EVERYTHING he came into contact with.
The human trash that you Leftoids think are some sort of "hero" or "diety" really reveals how shallow and ignorant the Left actually is.[This message has been edited by randye (edited 08-09-2023).]
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ray b
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AUG 09, 01:44 PM
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NO as usual you missed the total point
yes he was never showing a serious side at all
yes he was a clown or jester that was his job/roll/position ie what he did and why he was a media star of no substance or import
or goofing on the press
and got laid more then you
and as I said before was a better man then you but that ain't hard
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fredtoast
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AUG 09, 02:26 PM
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quote | Originally posted by randye: You never met Hoffman did you?
I did.
I was there in Chicago in 68'
That asswipe was never serious about a damn thing in his entire life, with the possible exception of being "deadly serious" about trying to escape responsibility for his own acts.
He was a classic sociopathic narcissist and his greatest joy was attempting to screw up EVERYTHING he came into contact with.
The human trash that you Leftoids think are some sort of "hero" or "diety" really reveals how shallow and ignorant the Left actually is.
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I have met a few famous people, but that does not make me an expert on them. Hoffman is far from a "diety" in my eyes, but he put himself in a very dangerous situation. He was willing to go to prison or even die for his cause.
Anyone who was really in Chicago for the 1968 DNC convention would never say it was not a deadly serious situation. Over the 2 previous years law enforcement had shot hundreds of protestors. Dozens were killed. Martin Luther King JR. and Robert Kennedy had been assassinated. And Chicago Mayor Richard Daley was at war with the protestors. The convention center was ringed with barbed wire, There were over 10,000 police and national guard patrolling the area. Hoffman knew he was the target of an investigation by the CIA and FBI.
This was no game. The stakes were deadly serious.
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olejoedad
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AUG 09, 02:35 PM
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The stakes were deadly serious, no question.
From personal knowledge, Mr. Hoffman lived in his own world where nothing would ever happen to him. 'Let's see how far we can push it' would be a good summary of his outlook. Mr. Hoffman was far from normal.
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82-T/A [At Work]
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AUG 09, 03:22 PM
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quote | Originally posted by fredtoast: Hoffman knew he was the target of an investigation by the CIA and FBI. |
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Is this just hearsay, or are you repeating fact? The CIA has nothing to do with what goes on domestically. They're not an investigation / law enforcement agency, it's an unarmed civilian spy agency that specifically deals with foreign intelligence and works with the special operations branch of the U.S. military. If the CIA had been involved in spying on a US person, this should be a really big deal, because it means constitutional rights and authorities were violated.
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