What is Republican Party going to do with abortion issue (Page 1/7)
fredtoast AUG 09, 08:19 PM
Most people in the US agree with limits on abortion after 16-20 weeks or so, but most oppose the extreme position that the Republican party has tried to impose. The problem with the abortion issue is that it is hard for people who believe a fertilized egg is a person to compromise in any way. and if they don't compromise this issue will kill them in elections.

My position is based on law instead of religion. Until an embryo can survive outside of the mother's womb it is not entitled to individual rights superior to the mother. My position is probably considered "liberal" now, but I am guessing that within 10-15 years doctors will be able to grow a fertilized egg completely outside of the mother's womb. At that point I would say that if the father wants the child the mother would have to give it up to him and pay child support. It gets a little more complicated if a grandmother or the state want to take the child, but the biggest issue remains the same. No one can force a woman to carry a child in her body that could not survive without her body.
Patrick AUG 09, 08:41 PM

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Originally posted by fredtoast:

The problem with the abortion issue is that it is hard for people who believe a fertilized egg is a person to compromise in any way...



There's at least one active member of this forum who believes that line of thought, and if you disagree in any manner, you will be labeled as a "murderer" of "babies". Compromise is not a word in their vocabulary.
fredtoast AUG 09, 08:55 PM

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Originally posted by Patrick:

There's at least one active member of this forum who believes that line of thought, and if you disagree in any manner, you will be labeled as a "murderer" of "babies". Compromise is not a word in their vocabulary.




If someone honestly believes it is murder then I can understand why he would not compromise. That is what is going to make it so hard for Republicans.

Trump actually drew a larger percentage of the black voters in his second run. Research shows that that gain was almost entirely based on the pro-life platform. Both blacks and Hispanics are more religious than the rest of the DNC.
Patrick AUG 09, 09:26 PM

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Originally posted by fredtoast:

If someone honestly believes it is murder then I can understand why he would not compromise.



The problem with this member, from my perspective, is that even though I have had nothing to do with any abortion being performed on anyone I know... I have personally been called a "murderer" numerous times in this forum... simply because I'm seen as a "leftist" here.

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ray b AUG 09, 09:32 PM
the cultists need to understand

their belief is NOT LAW

their religion limits their actions

in a free open society
it should never limit my actions

but in this kind of case
they do WANT TO LIMIT MY FREEDOMS
BASED ONLY ON THEIR RELIGION

AND THAT IS WRONG

WORSE THEY WILL NOT DO IT THEMSELVES
BUT WANT TO SUBVERT THE STATE
TO INFARCE THEIR BELIEF ON OTHERS
randye AUG 09, 10:00 PM
It's cute to see a quorum of our PFF Leftoid squad dive in so fast to hold a "seminar" on abortion.

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Patrick AUG 09, 10:01 PM

Have you got that poster on your wall?
olejoedad AUG 09, 11:01 PM
Back on topic......

IMHO, the abortion issue should be left up to the State legislatures.
ray b AUG 09, 11:19 PM

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Originally posted by olejoedad:

Back on topic......

IMHO, the abortion issue should be left up to the State legislatures.



NO

worst case referendum 50% wins no gimmicks

State legislature are far too cult con-trolled
ray b AUG 09, 11:35 PM

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Originally posted by randye:

It's cute to see a quorum of our PFF Leftoid squad dive in so fast to hold a "seminar" on abortion.






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